1927 Model 8 problem cycling (Jam issue)

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Tachelberry
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1927 Model 8 problem cycling (Jam issue)

Post by Tachelberry » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:32 pm

My 1927 Model 8 is not stripping the round from the magazine. My reload consists of spire point bullets with new brass crimped on the crimp groove. When loading 2 bullets into the magazine I am able to release the bolt and the first round feeds correctly. After the shot, the second round is not picked up from the magazine. The bolt does not close completely and the barrel also is not fully retracted because the tip of the second bullet which is still in the magazine is pushed under the barrel keeping the action open. Any suggestions? I appreciate any information I can get. Thanks

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Phyrbird
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Re: 1927 Model 8 problem cycling (Jam issue)

Post by Phyrbird » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:53 am

TklB,
A lighter load may not cycle the action all the way back. Our Ladies are recoil operated. Cleaning the action spring & tube, the recoil spring, & the buffer spring could help. If the barrel sleeve springs are not in correctly it could have an effect as well.
Sounds like a cycling problem, not a "broke" problem.
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chas1949
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Re: 1927 Model 8 problem cycling (Jam issue)

Post by chas1949 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:09 pm

Make sure the magazine spring is installed correctly, make sure open side of spring faces to the rear of magazine...

Tachelberry
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Re: 1927 Model 8 problem cycling (Jam issue)

Post by Tachelberry » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:56 pm

The load is a warm load 1.5 grains from a max load. The rifle has been taken down and thoroughly cleaned with the exception of the barrel assembly and the magazine. I will take the magazine apart and give it a good cleaning. What I found odd was the tip of the bullet was moved forward in the magazine. The barrel was not fully forward in the sleeve. The tip of the bullet was impeding the barrel from moving fully forward. The bullet tip was wedged between the forward part of the magazine and barrel as it was moving to the home position.

Thanks for your suggestions.

chas1949
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Re: 1927 Model 8 problem cycling (Jam issue)

Post by chas1949 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:11 pm

Some times you have to work on the magazine a bit. Sounds like the round in the mag is pushed out before barrel has returned to battery and released the bolt carrier. Try gently bending the mag lips in a bit to hold round down. Make sure side springs are installed correctly also.

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Re: 1927 Model 8 problem cycling (Jam issue)

Post by kenhwind » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:50 pm

What you describe makes me wonder if your cartridge is too long. You mention a spire point, but not the caliber. We have rifles in four calibers, a .35, .30, .25, and a .300.
A spire point 150 grain FMJBT seems to be fine in the .300 Savage, but would be too long in the .30 Remington.

Using the Hornady 30-30 and 25-35 bullets my loads are a bit longer then factory when crimping on the cannelure, but work just fine. I've read reviews where using the Hornady bullet makes the round too long for the Remington pump, but the Speer bullet works.
KEN

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