Firsy attempt: not enough lubing?

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LyingBastard
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Firsy attempt: not enough lubing?

Post by LyingBastard » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:19 pm

So I took my Model 8 to the range yesterday. Ammo was a Remington-brand green box of 35 Remington in 200gr. As with all of my new 9to me firearms) I put one single round in magazine, pull bolt back, and let it go. And It did not want to close all the way:
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A few more attempts and I was able to close it, or so I thought because pulling trigger would result in no boom. I would then pull bolt back again, noticing it did not grab round, and let it slam forward for the second time and finally pressing trigger would cause boom, and the bolt would lock back, but not grab spent round. Using another cartridge as a lever (plenty of 556 spent cartridges on the ground), I had no problems grabbing the spent 35 Remington brass, which had a different shine on its body compared to spend rounds of other rifles I've shot.
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I repeated this another two times, each with slightly improved results: brass #3 was actually grabbed and pulled back a distance but still not lopped off the rifle.

So, needs lube? I will say operating the bolt does feel like there is a bit of a drag. If so, where? If not, should I tear apart bolt assembly and clean/lube it (no lubing firing pin channel)?

Rifleman
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Re: Firsy attempt: not enough lubing?

Post by Rifleman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:10 am

I thought also that my bolt or the 'innards' in my 300 Savage Model 81 may be dry, needing some lube (if you've read the 'trials and tribulations' and 'woes' in my "First Time Shooting Problems" post). I took the barrel and stock off and using a needle oiler lubed where I could see that any metal to metal contact could/may occur. I didn't take the trigger assembly off or any other disassembly as I wanted to see if what I did lube would work. I didn't over lube, just a drop here and there, didn't do squat as to relieving any of my problems. May yours, hope so. I've read just about everything I can find on the web about what is causing my ills. Waiting on a barrel tool I ordered to take a look at the barrel springs. Received some good tips from forum members, if barrel springs are ok, I'm back to looking at other remedies and tips. I'm a long time shooter to AR's, bolt and lever action rifles, but this is my first semiauto of this type, problem is heightened due to the fact none of my shooting friends or others I talk to are familiar to the 8/81 workings. Good luck in your Rx.

Rifleman
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Re: Firsy attempt: not enough lubing?

Post by Rifleman » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:52 am

To all of you veteran/long time 8/81 shooters, what is the proper/needed lubing the 8/81 needs and likes. I've been shooting firearms since a wee lad of 15 back in the 60's, have shot and gunsmithed a variety of types and actions over the years. With the problems I've had with my 81 300 Savage (posted in 'First time shooting problems), I've watched a number of video's, read a lot of info, and just received a Henwood book I ordered. I just disassembled my 81 and can see where lubrication should be, ie pivot points, metal/metal contact, etc, but to you long time shooters, where do you normally lube and possibly use grease vs oil that the action likes and possibly areas that may be overlooked. Reference my problems with my 81, "I Think" I may have found what was causing my issues, will report back on my original post after I get the 'Ol Girl' stoned a bit (pretty rough in areas) and back reassembled and reshooting. Likened to having your shoulder or knee out of joint on your body-things just don't work right. :(

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