My 1907 model 8

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Stray03
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My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:51 am

Alright I picked this up for probably more than I should have but it is the only one I have ever seen for sale up here. Anyways Now I'm wondering If I should leave it as is or reblue and clean it up into a decent looking rifle.

-Missing original buttplate, had a badly fitting one with it.
-the detent pin for the safety is missing which means someone managed to take it apart before me.
-almost no blueing left
-The stock has been refinished and reshaped by someone. Probably in an attempt to remove what looks like hunting notches on the fore stock and buttstock.
- when I got the thing it looked like someone had dropped it with the stock off, The end of the spring tube took a hit preventing me from removing the spring until I rounded the tube end back up and once I got the spring out I shaped it back to near "original"
-Light pitting on shroud, and some on the outside of actual barrel.

Upsides

-Nice bore
-mechanically complete, aka should work when I pull the trigger
- all parts match


I figure there isn't much collectors value left in her, so I wonder If I should just clean her up. Any Ideas?
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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Sarge756 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:55 am

Welcome from N.Florida. Where the heck is "up here"?

Take a look at this previous post for some "ideas".

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:20 am

Americas hat, Canada. So a Refinishing/rebluing is the right path?

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by imfuncity » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:55 am

IMHO you are on the right track... First make sure it functions and shoot it. Then, refinish, etc. as you like - it will never be a true collector item but a real fine, fun shooter - probably exactly what you bought it for. Enjoy.
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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:22 am

Yeah even though I do Like having a gun that will grow in value, It doesn't change anything since I don't sell my firearms. I'm intrigued by the mechanics of firearms, and enjoy seeing how the early repeaters were built. Most new repeating firearms are based on well tested mechanisms. Repeating arms makers of that time period really had nothing else to base their designs on so when you look at the mechanisms they tend to be more interesting and better built than the stuff being sold today.
All this being said, I only buy Firearms that I can shoot, I would never spend the money on a firearm who's value is based on the fact that it is new in box never fired.

So although it annoys me that people do stupid things to firearms as long as they function properly I'm ok with it even though it means more work for me to bring her back to her former glory or thereabouts.

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by imfuncity » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:30 pm

...may take awhile, some elbow grease, plus the scavenger hunt for a few parts. Should be fun, and definitely rewarding. My your tribe increase. :D
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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:09 am

Definitely a scavenger hunt, I may just make my own detent pin. Probably easier than sourcing, and cheaper. Even as beaten up as she is, it is quite an intriguing rifle to look at.

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by 81police » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:54 am

Stray, I might have a spare safety detent
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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:37 pm

Well I decided it wouldn't be worth making a full restoration on this Rifle, so I cleaned it up, got the spare parts that I needed Thanks to this forum, and started a "Functional" restoration. Involved some cold bluing to protect the barrel and cleaning up of the wood stock (including steaming). I still have to polish out the bolt as there is a dark mark on it and install the safety detent but Even though it isn't perfect I still think It came out well enough as a nice shooting gun, even though I don't have to worry about the value of it having increased.

Anyways the Pics are not great and it doesn't look as dark as the pics show it. (Bad lighting) but I consider it better than when I got it. Shoots Well (accurate), even though she does kick much more than I expected her to.

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Big thanks to those who helped.

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Bandersnatch » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:23 am

what caliber?
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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:49 am

.35 remington

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by 81police » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:05 pm

she's lookin good! :D
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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:31 am

She looks better than she did, still has some ugly "notched in deer kills" on stock and fore end. Is the detent ball supposed to hold the safety about 1/8th of an inch off the receiver and be difficult to switch from safe to fire?

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by In The Ten Ring » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:30 am

What's with the trigger lock?

*I assume you are somewhere that's has a trigger lock law and posting pics is dangerous unless there's a lock in place.* I toss all my trigger locks into a big box, never to be messed with again, except once where I used one for the locker at the gym.

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:49 pm

Canada unfortunately rules here say locked for storage if not I get charged with improper storage lose my licence lose my guns and a few other nice things that were written into law.
I was just too lazy to find the right key to take the lock off for the picture.

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by In The Ten Ring » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:36 pm

I figured it was something like that. Sorry mate, I couldn't live very easily by such rules. I understand it's not so easy for you to escape those bounds.

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Re: My 1907 model 8

Post by Stray03 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:57 am

1990's was a big kick to canadian gun owners teeth. Firearms act came to being that made no mention of new rules for the criminal use of firearms, but made a bunch of rules for the firearms community to be forced to follow unless they wanted to experience jail time. Improper storage and other things became criminal acts, banned and confiscated guns like the SPAS 12 and the calico series of firearms, made pistols with barrels of 4 inches or less prohibited (allowing owners to keep them, but if made after 1946 they cannot be transferred to others therefore delayed confiscation), and a bunch of other crap. It is what happens when firearm ownership is a privilege and not a right. They removed the long gun registry in 2012 with no ill effect, so atleast it was a bit of a step in the right direction just not enough.

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