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Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:11 am
by Shooter5
Is it possible to imagine what may have been if the US Military had adopted the Model 8 and we had used it in WW1? Or for that matter, adopted it instead of the Garand?
Re: Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:29 pm
by 81police
I don't think it would have been a good thing.
Re: Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:34 pm
by TNrifleman
As a combat rifle, the Garand excels. The Model 8/81 is a better sporting/hunting rifle in my opinion.
Re: Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:29 pm
by Shooter5
Wasn't some evidence of Model 8's used by some of the European militarys?
If an autoloader would have been used in large numbers in WW1, I wonder if that would have spurred on other countries to investigate them earlier-and then perhaps the US would have been opposed by them in WW2? Or could a Model 8 have caused JMB (or others like Garand) to develop their designs sooner?
Perhaps it may not have withstood combat conditions like a Garand, however, I wonder how it may have fared either way.
Re: Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:06 am
by 35Rem
It would have definately led to improvements in the design. Browning weapons using the same principles are still in use by our military today. I would have been interesting....Garand who?
Re: Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:41 am
by buford1769
It might of had a good chance. My old Marine buddies and I go out to the range and try to out shoot each other with old military rifles and the old Model 8 does just fine and if it just had a 30 rd mag
It for sure out proforms the SKS .Hakim which would jam up in rapid fire, the old 8 did not.But nothing would beat the old M14 ,Garand. Just wonder what the troops would choose to carry cause there is a big weight differance.
Re: Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:03 pm
by 35Remington
I have a Model 8 with military markings! It is a standard Model 8 except for these markings. The left side of the receiver has "US" and a flaming bomb, right behind the rear sight on the barrel shroud is a flaming bomb and on the left side of the buttstock is "N. AUTOMATIC 3000 F.S" and G.H.D. in a rectangle. The caliber is .35 Rem and the serial number is early, #12510. Does anyone have any theories about what I have? Pete
Re: Speculation:What if the US Military had adopted the Model 8?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:27 pm
by 81police
Several members here actually have pictures of that rifle 35Remington. Being marked "G.H.D." I would assume that represents Guy H. Drewry who's cartouche you see on many WWII era firearms (Guy H. Drewry Lt. Col., USA - Smith & Wesson .38 Revolvers, Colt .45, 38 and .22 Revolvers and Pistols, Winchester and Underwood M1 Carbines, Colt Ace .22 Pistol 1930-1946).
http://www.proofhouse.com/cm/us_inspector.htm
The only strange thing is that "GHD" cartouches appeared from 1930-1946 and your rifle would have been manufactured sometime around 1909. Who knows?!
Maybe some other members have more info regarding military marked 8's.