So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

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So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by Bandersnatch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:15 pm

...and I was wondering if he had something for our delightful ladies to eat. Waters stated that the Remington literature of the day claimed that these rifles, in .30 cal., would group 3 inches at 100 yards with the standard round nose ammo. He was wondering if that couldn't be bettered. His load of choice was a spitzer bullet over 32 grains of 3031. The trick, of course, is seating the bullet back far enough to fit in the itty bitty magazine.
Scratching the old chin, I gave it some thought. I have a couple of boxes of Hornady SST 150 grain pills designed for the .300 Savage, so the ogive is already short, and lots of 3031 and 100 virgin brass. To the loading bench!

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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by Bandersnatch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:16 pm

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As you can see, the bullets are seated as deep as I can get them without leaving the case mouth unsupported. The just barely fit, but they do.
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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by Bandersnatch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:18 pm

Just some pretty pics:

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I put a newer Redfield scope on, which hopefully won't have the wash out problem I experienced with the antique Bushnell on my .35 last season.
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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by Bandersnatch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:21 pm

Early group, about 2 inches at 100 yards. Not bad, but not what we wanted, either.

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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by Bandersnatch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:22 pm

Last group: 10 3-shot groups were fired at 100 yards.

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Isn't that a daisy?
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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by Bandersnatch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:25 pm

It looks like Mr. Waters was definitely onto something. A real, live 1 3/4" group. Who knew the wonderful old rifles could do such a thing? Waters opined that this made it a 200 yard rifle, which is well within most places I hunt.

Might need to look up some pigs in the next week or two....
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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by Phyrbird » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:45 pm

Just a note Mr Waters was instrumental in my (& brother too) ringing the gong at 185yds at the Great 8 Event. 180 gr Hornadys Spire points & 200gr Hornady Spire points. They are good in the 760 pump too. All our loaders should read & memorize his articles on the 25-30 & 35Rem loads because he made special effort for our Ladies.
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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by 81police » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:36 am

Great work there! I found the post and grouping very interesting.
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Re: So, I was reading Ken Waters' "Pet Loads"...

Post by kenhwind » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:33 am

I use the 147 grain 7.62/.308 bullet in the .300 Savage. I do not know in this combination will work with the .30 Remington. Okay I just did a comparison and the .300 S is a quite bit shorter then the .30 R or .25 R.
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