Ejection (Stove Piping) with 81 300 Savage
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:14 pm
Hello All! If you've read my last post dated 02/24 on my original post concerning my 81 Savage (First Time Shooting Problems With Savage 300 81-org posted 08/23) I think I solved the problems I was having. After firing 60 rounds all went well except that when firing the first two magazine full of rounds, the third spent brass of each round full of cartridges would stove pipe vertically. I had previously had more problems with the brass not ejecting right, mostly the bolt would slam the open end of the brass into the top of the barrel right above the chamber and really crumble the case mouth. The brass is now stove piping vertically with the bolt already have stripped a new round from the magazine. I've read some that the 8/81 rifles were known for stove piping at times, a lot having to do with a worn ejector and/or spring.
When I disassembled my 81 and cleaned all (including barrel and barrel jacket), the only thing I didn't disassemble was the trigger group, as I could clean and lube without disassembly and the bolt. I didn't disassemble the bolt, but used a high pressure can of cleaner, shooting the 'bejebbers' out of it using the can's straw, then used air pressure to blow it out, and lubed. The shooting I have done with the 81, especially since replacing the latch and latch spring, I've noticed that the ejecting brass doesn't 'fly' far. Most end up at my feet or just a foot or so to my right. While shooting, aiming down the barrel, I can see the spent brass being ejected and they aren't 'flying' far up above the receiver. Is this normal? I would think they would eject farther unless ejector is worn and/or dirty in channel. I watched one video of a guy shooting a 81 police mag model that had a stove pipe from the ejecting brass flying up and then back down into the action, stove piping before the bolt could close. I'm wondering if this is what is happening to my 81 when firing and if it is caused by a weak spring and/or worn ejector. If not the parts, since I didn't take the bolt apart, could there be 'gunk' inside the ejector housing that didn't get cleaned out, or a combination of worn parts and gunk.
I did find on ebay a new (old manufactured) still in original package ejector and new spring at a good price. I haven't installed yet. If ejector channel is just dirty, a cleaning may fix. I don't mind keeping the new parts on hand as ya never know. In fact I've 'squirreled' away a few other parts for the 8/81 (mostly springs) for the 'just in case' as they're hard to find. Any suggestions/comments as to what I've written. I've read and viewed several video's on the replacement of the spring/ejector. Big question I have is can I take the bolt out and replace it easily without doing a complete disassembly of the action, other than taking the action spring out. Appreciate any thoughts.
The 2nd Model 81 in 300 Savage I bought operates fine, haven't taken down yet. Couldn't resist buying, great shape and price. No receiver scope holes drilled, early '49 vintage.
When I disassembled my 81 and cleaned all (including barrel and barrel jacket), the only thing I didn't disassemble was the trigger group, as I could clean and lube without disassembly and the bolt. I didn't disassemble the bolt, but used a high pressure can of cleaner, shooting the 'bejebbers' out of it using the can's straw, then used air pressure to blow it out, and lubed. The shooting I have done with the 81, especially since replacing the latch and latch spring, I've noticed that the ejecting brass doesn't 'fly' far. Most end up at my feet or just a foot or so to my right. While shooting, aiming down the barrel, I can see the spent brass being ejected and they aren't 'flying' far up above the receiver. Is this normal? I would think they would eject farther unless ejector is worn and/or dirty in channel. I watched one video of a guy shooting a 81 police mag model that had a stove pipe from the ejecting brass flying up and then back down into the action, stove piping before the bolt could close. I'm wondering if this is what is happening to my 81 when firing and if it is caused by a weak spring and/or worn ejector. If not the parts, since I didn't take the bolt apart, could there be 'gunk' inside the ejector housing that didn't get cleaned out, or a combination of worn parts and gunk.
I did find on ebay a new (old manufactured) still in original package ejector and new spring at a good price. I haven't installed yet. If ejector channel is just dirty, a cleaning may fix. I don't mind keeping the new parts on hand as ya never know. In fact I've 'squirreled' away a few other parts for the 8/81 (mostly springs) for the 'just in case' as they're hard to find. Any suggestions/comments as to what I've written. I've read and viewed several video's on the replacement of the spring/ejector. Big question I have is can I take the bolt out and replace it easily without doing a complete disassembly of the action, other than taking the action spring out. Appreciate any thoughts.
The 2nd Model 81 in 300 Savage I bought operates fine, haven't taken down yet. Couldn't resist buying, great shape and price. No receiver scope holes drilled, early '49 vintage.