Buffer springs

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Buffer springs

Post by curdog » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:03 am

I am kind of new to Model 8s, and have a handful of spares I've picked up.

My question is: are the 25 and 30/32 buffer springs the same? I have a 35 spring, and it is much heavier than the other two I have, but I'm not sure what caliber they are from

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Re: Buffer springs

Post by ROBOPUMP » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:56 pm

You are correct in that the buffer spring for the smaller caliber rifles, 25, 30 and 32 REM is not as heavy as the one for the larger calibers. The smaller caliber rifles have a buffer spring that has about 7 and a half flights or rounds. The heavier buffer spring for the 35 Rem and the 300 Savage have about 6+ flights or rounds. Be safe and enjoy life. ROB

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Re: Buffer springs

Post by curdog » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:36 pm

So, would the same buffer spring be used for a .25 and the .32? Even though the .32 bullet is half as heavy again.

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Re: Buffer springs

Post by Phyrbird » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:40 am

I don't know yet, but I will. there are all the calibers here to be checked.
When I pull one apart I take dimensional notes. I have documented a difference of over all length of a used 35 Rem recoil spring vs new.
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Re: Buffer springs

Post by curdog » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:36 pm

One I have here has 13 coils, and is quite soft. I can fully compress it between my fingers. This may be for a 25.

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Re: Buffer springs

Post by Simmer down » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:14 pm

The model 8 is new to me. I typically replace mag and recoil springs in any ancient auto before I shoot it. My regular sources, Wolff and Numrich, don't carry these. Any leads for a 30 Rem?

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Re: Buffer springs

Post by imfuncity » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:44 am

I've taken down several 25, 30, 32s - over a variety of manufacture dates - all had almost identical spring dimensions.

"One I have here has 13 coils, and is quite soft. I can fully compress it between my fingers."
Can't imagine anyone manual compression the recoil spring, we must be talking about different springs.

"I typically replace mag and recoil springs in any ancient auto before I shoot it."
Think you'll find the originals very stout and no need to replace them, even on the oldest rifles.
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Re: Buffer springs

Post by Simmer down » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:38 am

imfuncity wrote:
"I typically replace mag and recoil springs in any ancient auto before I shoot it."
Think you'll find the originals very stout and no need to replace them, even on the oldest rifles.
That works out since I can't find any.

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Re: Buffer springs

Post by curdog » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:08 pm

imfuncity

The 13 coil spring I can compress is the buffer spring, the first one you load in the jacket, before you load the recoil spring case and the recoil spring. It is quite easily compressed between your fingers - it's only about 2 1/2" long. I pulled a 25 down to check.

The recoil spring for the 25 is made from .045" wire, instead of .055" wire that the larger calibers have. The spring diameter is smaller, requiring a different recoil spring case.

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Re: Buffer springs

Post by imfuncity » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:06 pm

curdog - "The recoil spring for the 25 is made from .045" wire, instead of .055" wire that the larger calibers have."
Got it, I was thinking the big thick one at the bottom that goes in first, you must be are talking the that comes out first and flies all over the shop if one isn't careful. :lol: Agree with the diameter different also, same with mine.

Simmer down - nice how that works out. I did have a couple from the 20s, where the springs were so rusted I could hardly get them out of the barrel jacket... didn't find that out until after I shot one - and even it functioned fine. Cleaned those two up, plus checked all the rest, no others with any major rust or crude - lightly oiled all I had, no issues.
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