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Adam Lee

Awsome find! I hope you find a magazine soon. There has to be one out there somewhere. Took my Krieger out for a spin last week, she sure didn't disappoint. The more I shoot these old rifles, the more I respect I have for the old rifle craftsmen and what went into building them. Good shooting! Than...

Adam Lee

Glad to see you're having some fun fishing, making steam, and sharing the videos!

Adam

Adam Lee

FWIW - same seller had this same mag listed on GunsAmerica auction site in January for a start price of $675. Now, that's great if such a mag can be verified as a Krieger conversion, but just by some careful inspection of this pre-1910 or so magazine you can see just how basic it is to mill the mag ...

Adam Lee

Les Staley wrote:Adam, see Johnhalf's post above!

Thanks for the heads-up Les - but that's for an early Model 8, I have a late 40's Model 81 to work with. Similar but different. And in reality, I now know that modifying an existing mag is likely the way I'll go at some point.

Adam

Adam Lee

Just saw a new listing on ebay for a Krieger Conversion .35 mag. Sadly the buy now price is 385. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-Model-8-Krieger-Conversion-Detachable-Magazine-35-Rem-RARE-/221811036109?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a4f7cfcd This one is an early (pre-1910?) Model 8 magazine...

Adam Lee

If it were my gun I'd take a stock mag and have it modified to Krieger specs. A friend did some of these using cobbler rivets to keep the side springs in place, then worked the metal off the back until fit was perfect. He may still do them, I don't know... Pete V. TVERSCH@HOTMAIL.COM thanks for the...

Adam Lee

Team GM8, How's about this wacky idea: in lieu of a Krieger magazine, I am pretty sure I could swap trigger guard/magazine with a "standard" 81 and put this rifle in action. From what I gather, I'm going to have to take a look at removing the magazine stop screw (Krieger's screw) as well a...

Adam Lee

This might prove fruitless, but I'll ask anyway - my new/old Krieger 81 conversion needs a magazine. Any leads, any help here would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys. Already planning to work up a standard magazine a-la Krieger if need be. Might never find one otherwise! But I will be patient and ...

Adam Lee

Carl, I do think I got a good deal - even without the magazine! It is a later Krieger, you can see it has that extra screw on the right side of the receiver (not talking about the pair of extra screws on the left s/n side) which serves as the safety over travel stop. I'm guessing there is a specific...

Adam Lee

Wow - what a month! Just won my first Krieger 81 (minus magazine) and it is definitely a case of jackitis! More later I'm on a dang iPhone and find them tough to use.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =487746891

Adam

Adam Lee

I wanted to know the same thing!

Adam Lee

Cam, other arf-15 guys in the 6.5 Grendel realm, what do you think of this upper?

http://www.jsesurplus.com/CUSTOM20DOUBL ... LLHGB.aspx

thanks
Adam

Adam Lee

I'm running a JP silent capture spring, not anything smoother out there. I also run a JP low mass bolt carrier, that combination (along with a small frame Bennie Cooley brake) makes the gun "kick like a 223, but hit like a 243" http://www.midwayusa.com/product/316607/jp-enterprises-silent...

Adam Lee

+1 very nice early 81 score, 50Deuce! Curious minds would be very interested in the rifle for sale at your gun shop - don't tease - can you give us who may be very interested in consideration of buying the .30Rem rifle a link to the business address/etc? It wouldn't be sitting for years if people kn...

Adam Lee

Hey guys. This is in the "general" folder since it's nothing to do with Model 8s/81s... Building an arf-15 for the first time - after owning a Colt HBAR back in the day, I couldn't help myself now that lowers are so cheap! Got an Anderson lower and a parts kit, now on to the buffer/tube/an...

Adam Lee

I don't know anything about Sabre Defense quality (I believe they're out of business now), but for the price it's hard to beat Alexander Arms uppers. For $735-792 you can get complete 6.5 uppers (16" or 18") which include a bolt carrier group and charging handle. http://www.shopalexandera...

Adam Lee

Cam,
Any knowledge on the Sabre 6.5 Grendel upper? It's an M-4 profile with pinned flash hider, so it's a 14.5" bbl made legally into a 16" length.

Looking into my pre-built options to get my arf-15/Anderson going sooner rather than later....

thanks!
Adam

Adam Lee

Guys, this one actually came to me in April before the 81 I just got yesterday - anyway, pics later for same reason as always school/new dogs/sleep deprivation/etc. Later 81, date code PTT/June, '48 and s/n 39763 which is everywhere it should be. Slab-sided forearm, aluminum buttplate, a little scra...

Adam Lee

OK, I have no pics yet - but this Model 81, s/n 8280, has all the "classic" early 81 stuff - and it's just before the "later" features, so I am happy. LH/Feb '39 bbl jacket code. Semi-beavertail forearm, steel buttplate, pretty decent blue remaining, s/n 8280 everywhere. Will pos...

Adam Lee

Hey there,
while the 81 tang has two screws only one goes into the wood. The other screw is for the spring plate.

It is most likely an 81 stock, IMHO.

Adam

Adam Lee

Rob,
My classroom kids (I teach 5th grade students) have been tracking the severe weather recently in class. Unfortunately, this is when we start getting the bad stuff and hopefully TX/OK/Ark/MO/KS will rise above.
And it's good to hear you're not in the submerged parts of Houston!

Adam

Adam Lee

CK, You're right - this s/n is an early first year 81, 1936. Also, the lower of the two barrel jacket stamps is the original assembly date code of November, 1936 (RE) while the upper code is a factory return/repair code for November, 1939 (RH3). Neat stuff - from the slab-sided forearm, I assumed it...

Adam Lee

Can anyone recommend a good gunsmith for a model 81, in case I want to mount a period correct scope? ckmorley CK, many of us here would advise against installing a scope to your 81 if it did not already have holes drilled in the receiver or barrel jacket. However, if it's already been done, read on...

Adam Lee

Nice looking 81, CK!

What's the s/n range and barrel jacket date code, if I may ask? From the forearm style, it could have been anywhere from about 1940-1949.

Have fun shooting and enjoying your new rifle!

Adam

Adam Lee

Robert, as far as adding pictures to posts on this forum is concerned: my best luck is by just embedding the link to my google drive photo albums. I know it is all a bunch of clicking but it does get annoying when something that used to work a particular way doesn't seem to do so any more. Can't say...

Adam Lee

Roger, Norm, thanks for your feedback. Roger - I do appreciate your opinion on what to do with the ammo. For the price I paid, and the quality of the rounds - notwithstanding the boxes missing their lids - I was amazed at my luck. I think that was just plain honest, dumb luck on my part. Now, what t...

Adam Lee

If such a thing exists, it sure might be an aftermarket barrel. Just my thought, based on nothing more than a guess!

Keep up the research!

Adam

Adam Lee

I don't have any knowledge regarding your question, however I wanted to mention that I appreciate your well-edited photos showing exactly where the markings are on your .30 Rem barrel. That W&S and 40 stamp add a lot of interest to a "gun markings" gun nut like me!!

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Adam Lee

After doing a little of my own research into this ammo online, as well as inspecting the variations/characteristics of the boxes and individual rounds in each, I noticed a few things that convince me I have ammo from two possible time frames. They might be half 1916-1920's, and other half 1920's-193...

Adam Lee

OK so I did get 11 boxes of this obsolete ammo. Most of it I have looked at has the silver-colored primer cups, but at least a few boxes are the copper "U" stamped cups. Every bit of it is untarnished with corrosion or rust or anything - just slightly "browning" for lack of a bet...

Adam Lee

Sorry I forgot to locate a picture to include that displays the condition of most of the boxes this ammo came in. I will do that later when I can. Basically, they are all the plain tan boxes with the angled profile picture of a Model 14 pump rifle on the side. They had/have that red round label whic...

Adam Lee

Guys, I just took some pics of the vintage .32 Rem ammo I purchased recently. For this effort, I took two boxes of this ammo (already lacking the tops) and compared the rounds. One thing I want to hear from you experts on older ammo, is approximate vintage of boxes and ammunition. It came to me desc...

Adam Lee

Do you realize what you've done?! haha You scored a great early 81 at a great price! I love how the stock set hasn't been sanded down, looks good. You are 100% correct, sir, regarding your observations. I was a bit surprised that I was not easily overtaken in the bidding. I looked at the jacket cod...

Adam Lee

Wow. When it rains.... I'll have to come back and explain the other guns & ammo stuff that's suddenly been appearing in my world, but I was glad to notice my FFL guy has more paperwork soon - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=481035017 and I just left his place, this afternoon,...

Adam Lee

Guys, I am just thinking aloud here, and wondering what you all think. I am and have been interested in purchasing one of the various Henry rifles, mainly I like that the Big Boy series lever guns appeal to me. Also, and another main reason, made in America. That being said, my actual first interest...

Adam Lee

here is another link from vintage semi auto forum about him. http://vintagesemiautorifle.proboards.com/thread/12/homesteading-years-model-8 This whole thread convinced me to make .25Rem my next orphan to acquire. I mean really - this dude spent decades hunting everything from porcupines to elk with...

Adam Lee

Adam, Sounds like a good score. We will be looking forward to the photos when you receive them. With a couple hundred this will give you a good stash for reloading in the future. As I have cautioned before about "old" ammo watch for splits of the necks. If you start getting them stop shoo...

Adam Lee

OK folks - I did the opposite version of buying the Buffalo arms ammo, so I think I should start a new thread (once my ammo comes in) - I got a couple hundred rounds of old nickel-jacketed .32 Remington on auction. Half of it is in boxes missing lids, half of it is in beat-up boxes...but the ammo lo...

Adam Lee

Looks solid, clean, and no holes. Nice gun to alleviate Jackitus!

Adam

Adam Lee

I was kind of hoping that whoever won this auction was also a member of the forum, so we might get a chance to learn about what this Model 8 with 81 barrel and barrel jacket was like "under the skin"..... But probably, we'll never know. I just thought the barrel jacket with repair code and...

Adam Lee

thanks for the shooter's testing BS! Glad to see you are willing to "show the money".....we all appreciate it. Joe, thanks as well for the links to the reloader's stuff - that's where I'm headed, for my .32, .35, and .300 Sav eventually. Aw, just go ahead and add .30 to the list....30 Rem ...

Adam Lee

Really? So would that technically make it a Remington Autoloading Rifle and not a Model 8 then? Ayup. Ya got any more pics? We like pics. :) Yes, we do like pictures of these guns, don't we? On that point - I need to get a new camera or a new smartphone that has a decent camera. Did I just think th...

Adam Lee

This hybrid Model 8 with a .300 barrel is just about to be done. Now that the seller posted some pics from the bottom of the receiver, I notice that the s/n of the receiver matches the barrel jacket head - 38922 "circle K" - yet the barrel jacket topside has the date/rebuild code of LJ3 ab...

Adam Lee

Bandersnatch, (I don't know your actual name so until I do - I'll be referring to you as BS, LOL - JK!) I was looking at those headstamps, which appear to be "real" old R-P/Remington-Peters stamped. Do outfits such as Buffalo Arms just gather and collect used brass, run it all through the ...

Adam Lee

bandersnatch, wanatim, did either of you guys order any of the buffalo .30Rem in 150 grn? As of today (4.30.15) their website still shows as available, ready to ship. However the price seems to be 60 per 20 rds.....which I hadn't noticed a few weeks ago. the "backorder OK" .32Rem in 150 gr...

Adam Lee

Bandersnatch wrote:Check out the magazine side spring.

Exactly.

Adam Lee

True dat, Joe! LOL....seriously, though why is it like a law of nature or something that any gun on GB you really want to look over in detail is conspicuously lacking good pictures? Not that I believe it is original, I just like those rebuild/repair codes on the barrel jacket. At the price people ar...

Adam Lee

Guys, I'm looking at my notes as I work on my guns, and darned if I never noticed that the Model 8 mix-master I own has a 1923 production Model 14 rifle buttplate. I never put much thought into why the s/n on the back of the plate - a steel bottom-tang style - was stamped C 87785. Of course, there a...

Adam Lee

Okay, obviously I missed wherever it is that there is a "sticky" or what have you for a formal, organized list of the data I mentioned. I do realize that these ideas are not new - just wasn't aware of this data being presented in a common format in a "one stop shopping" location....

Adam Lee

Guys, I have had an idea that maybe others have already pondered. Thinking on the information John Henwood stirs up in the fifth chapter of his great 8 book - "A History of Markings" - would there be any interest here on this forum to create a "sticky" that might support those of...

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