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Hey Loren, I think it just depends on the rifle. I don't think there's a set amount of money the Krieger adds to the value. Lot of factors play into it, scope mounts, tapped receivers, recoil pads, etc. An extra magazine like you're talking about certainly adds more value too.

Fit and finish on later production 81's tended to be lackluster compared to earlier rifles. From what i've seen, you wont find a better fit/finish than on the earliest of Model 8's (those that haven't been tampered with). Your rifle looks completely normal. Nice find! The markings are inspector marks.

scope looks like a Weaver to me. Nice find!

Looks great Sighthound, can you tell us a little about how you did the full stock rifle?

Good deal Coda, we look forward to seeing and hearing about your rifles. I believe it was you who posted on the other forums your Model 81 with detachable magazine. That rifle was pretty fascinating being a non-Krieger but of great quality. I liked that one.

great job gramps, the wood looks outstanding!

Nice group of rifles. Unless there is some form of Remington paperwork there is no way to authenticate a Model 81 in .25Rem. They can be very easily faked and it's happened. What do you mean by verified? If the 4 digit P.O.E. Model 8 you're referring to is the one posted on the other forums (and the...

I don't give values but like to give ranges in which rifles sell and then give my personal, humble, opinion of what I think might add or detract from the value of the rifle. The one picture I've seen up for auction before. The rifle doesn't look too bad, can't tell if its been reblued or not. Has th...

This allows the clip to pivot as if on a gimbal, making it next to impossible to neatly charge the magazine.

The clip's tabs should stop at the receiver's stripper clip guides not go inside the receiver. Welcome to the world of 8/81 stripper clips!

You might check your rifle then, if you have what is pictured you have an authentic M81 stripper clip. They aren't always easy to use but they do work.

I need to make a page and instructional video for these things to help members identify.

I've added a new page to the site called "Krieger Detachable Magazines", which can be found from the home page or at the link below. Please have a look and feel free to comment, I'm always open to new information.

http://thegreatmodel8.remingtonsociety.com/?page_id=563

Welcome to the forum Bruce, I've seen the pictures of your rifle on gunbroker. The barrel assembly (including forearm) are from a Model 81. This is apparent because of the patent roll stamping on the barrel shroud which are Model 81. Now there's a chance the barrel itself is original, but the shroud...

There are several variations of 8/81 stripper clips. Your clip sounds like it was made for a Model 81 (being marked .300Sav), but I have never seen any fake copies made with the proper caliber markings...at least not yet. Sometimes clips from Model 30's can be mistaken for 8/81 clips, I believe Pete...

Wes, Your rifle left the factory sometime in 1910. You are correct in that it is a Grade 5 (E grade) rifle. The blue wear looks consistent for a rifle that was used some in its history. I cannot tell by your pictures, is that an old recoil pad fitted to the buttstock? The two biggest detractors to t...

Nice video Model881!

Welcome to the club! I'd bet that 8 won't be your last

crowkiller,

We're pretty much stuck with original Remington mfg. 8/81 barrels, I've never heard of any custom barrel makers. Too bad because I'd buy one! What caliber barrel are you looking for?

Cam

I really appreciate you helping out 35rem, I'm not on here much during the weekend and thanks for removing inappropriate things that come up. I always delete/ban users who post that stuff but I'm not always quick on the draw.

Cam

There are a few different extractors Jordy. Early Model 8 extractors for 25, 30, 32 were either unmarked or marked "30", as seen in the picture below. Later 25,30, 32 extractors are sometimes unmarked, this can be confusing because some 35/300sav Model 81 extractors were unmarked as well (...

I hear you. David Chicoine knows what he's doing, you don't want some guy that just says okay I'll reblue it then the rifle comes back with a black color or glossy. There's a difference between "refurbishment" and "restoration" and it's all about the size of your pocketbook.

In most cases a restoration of the wood + the metal will cost you more than the value of the rifle, that is if you're looking to do it right and have it look correct. For correct Model 8/81 blue you would want a slow-rust blue. Sometimes you'll see a hot caustic blue and it can look good but it's no...

great family heirloom! For its age that is a good looking rifle, amazing to see it's still all original and even has decent "cheeks" left in the stock. It was took care of for sure.

I believe it's a pre-WWI, No. 3 "Special" Grade ( C grade). Member 2verpsters knows more about it than I do though.

Great looking 81 Floyd!

A few things I noticed about this rifle... -It's operating handle has been modified or replaced (looks like a Model 8 handle with modified bushing). -added recoil pad -forearm takedown screw is not original -sling swivels are not original -missing special flip rear sight - FN's (to my knowledge) mig...

Just how prone are these things to breaking That's all relative really. Depends on how much use or abuse the rifle has had, how well it was taken care of, etc. There are a few differences, more so with very early 8's but late production 8's are near identical to 81's apart from appearance. Model 8'...

it happens, but he's toast.

standard Model 81 LOP - 13 3/4"

IMO, recoil pads do decrease value, if your stock hasn't been cut you can find an original 81 buttplate and replace it.

Both tang sights accept varying sizes of apertures. Originals are not so easy to find, but this guy here makes great reproductions...

http://aperturesnmore.com/

Good eyes biggieroth and welcome to the forum! It means the rifle was not an original conversion done by Peace Officers' Equip Co. Here's more about the rifle you're talking about...

http://vintagesemiautorifle.proboards.c ... thread=280

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jlawgreen, welcome to the forum! What you're looking for is either a Lyman No. 1A AT or a Marble's R-6. They can frequently be found on ebay and other auction sites. Here's one as an example... http://cgi.ebay.com/Marbles-Tang-Sight-R6-Remington-Model-8-81_W0QQitemZ250560277331QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVin...

stripper clips can be found online, usually through gunbroker or ebay. Keep in mind that with most detachable magazine (standard 5 round) conversions the rifle itself must be modified, particularly the trigger plate which usually ends up housing the mag release/catch button. The magazines themselves...

Mike,

Here are pictures of member Chad's "F"(6) grade Model 8, a picture of the grip cap can be seen towards the bottom.

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haha, I was hoping he was gonna shoot that recoiless rifle at the car!

Welcome to the forum fcjr53 and Happy New Year!

Remington did not make a "left handed" Model 8 or 81 to my knowledge. Just as easy for someone to have a stock made for a left handed shooter though. Look in the picture gallery under "not so greats" and you'll see one gunsmith's handiwork at creating an ambidextrous safety!

Nice addition Jack, hard to find combo. You did good.

Happy New Year Coop and welcome to the forum!

Project complete! The wrenches have been hot caustic blued and turned out fantastic...although the picture doesn't do them justice. They are a very close match of the originals. I have to praise David R. Chicoine ( http://www.oldwestgunsmith.com ) for his work choosing the appropriate blue and doin...

looks real good Jack!

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Does the brass hit the scope tube or windage/elevation knobs? If it's the knobs and you have a standard crossair (not Tpost of course) you can cant the scope 90 degrees to get the knobs out of the way...that's very common with side mount 8/81's. If you have the time show us some pictures so we can g...

MasterAtArms, welcome to the forum! Please do post pictures of your rifle, these are hard to find and we'd all love to check it out.

Sounds like a weak ejector spring but could be a number of things, here are a few suggestions from Remington's 8/81 service manual regarding failed extraction... Cause A - Extractor has light tension at claw Correction - Bend upward the middle of extractor spring to produce more tension at claw Caus...

Very nice looking Model 8! Finding them in unaltered condition like that is getting harder and harder these days.

You won't find a Model 8 that left the factory new chambered in .300Sav. Hardrada55's on the money.

I've added a new page to the site called "Frank Hamer's Rifle" which can be found from the home page. Please have a look see and feel free to comment, I'm always open to new information.

definitely not a Krieger but I like the safety, looks almost like "D" grade engraving. I would just guess it's a one off done by a gunsmith, a couple things seem to point to that. If you get a chance take a pic or two of the internals with the magazine removed, seeing what they did to the ...

Well with the newest 81 being nearly 60 years old, you do often see some custom/modified stock sets and those heavily sanded. You are correct though in that there are only 2 forearms for the 81, the semi-beavertail and the flat side (if you exclude the Special Police 81 forearm, and the early "...

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