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This was posted before, and I learned it here.
There is never a need to dry fire the Model 8/81.
Let the bolt go slowly forward, with your finger on the trigger.
The hammer will simply follow the bolt.

Jim

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A fellow club member gave me some brass that he thought might be .30 Remington.
Some were marked 30 and were made by Remington. Turns out they are 30-40 Krag, formerly known as 30 US.

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Thanks TRX.
I actually ordered a lathe yesterday.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/4-x-6-M ... athe/G0745

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I grabbed one of those Ebay wrenches. It was perfect.
I didn't feel comfortable knowing mine, likely hadn't been opened in almost 80 years.
I was pleasantly surprised to find very clean internals and no rust. Plus it was fun!

Jim

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Wanatim,

Do you still have the .32 and .30 brass, and if yes are you willing to part with it?
I am about to buy a lathe to start making my own .32 brass.

Jim

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He sent me a bunch of pics. Under the recoil pad is fine, no issues there. Why he doesn't post them I don't know?

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I did the same thing with Buffalo Arms several months ago. I am still waiting.
If they do show up, let us know.

Jim

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Starline Brass is the fix. Who knew?

Thanks

Jim

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Wear it out, Mang! I'm all for discussing (and cussing) these odd, but wonderful old calibers. Before anyone buys a lathe I *think* I may have found a supplier for .30 and .32 and I have found that Midway has dies in their "obscure rifle" section. If the price is right, let us know. I am ...

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I only have a .32 Remington, and fortunately it came with 90 rounds of ammo, and 10 empties. 15% have been cracking though. .32 Remington ammo is getting absurd as well so I have decided Santa is getting me a lathe for Christmas to make my own brass from 30-30. Annealing is in my immediate future as...

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I am sure most of you anneal if you reload. I have been watching a lot of videos. Boy there are some resourceful people out there. I may go with the salt bath method. Seems cheap and easy with more room for error. What is your method? http://s262.photobucket.com/user/BattleRife/media/Saltbathanneali...

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Are you willing to share where the stash is coming from?
How many did you get?

Jim

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Wait a minute, that barrel jacket doesn't move does it when firing?
Otherwise Fred's inverted ring would not have worked.
This seems like a good project.

Thanks for the ideas.

Jim

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Norm,

Any issues with the ejecting brass hitting the underside of the scope?

Thanks.

Jim

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I know this sounds crazy, but has anyone tried mounting a long eye relief scope using the rear sight screw holes? I can see all kinds of issues, but it seems possible if the barrel jacket and scope could stand up to the recoil. Also would it still cycle with the added weight? Scope would need to be ...

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I think I found the answer. I knew I couldn't be the first.
Apparently Winchester brass is thicker than Starline. I just ordered some Starline.
We'll see.
Thanks
I'll report back later.

Jim

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I just heard back from the maker that is out of business. He said the bullets I bought were tapered. That explains a lot. There isn't a sizer die for odd sizes but they will custom make them, it just takes a few weeks. I just don't think a bullet smaller than .378 is going to be accurate in my rifle...

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Maybe that new lathe is going to get more work than I imagined.
I can't understand why I had no issues initially?

I may try some factory loads. If they are OK maybe I can get a gunsmith to open the last 1/2 of the chamber a hair?
Thanks
Jim

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I have a NEF Buffalo Classic in 38-55. I originally loaded fifty 255 gn. cast bullets sized at .380. I guessed at the time of my bore size. Accuracy was acceptable, so I tried to buy more. That guy went out of business, so I bought a whole bunch (500) from someone else. Now when I load the shell, it...

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This information is extremely useful. Thanks!
srs, can you post a pic of the tool you are using to cut the groove and rim in one pass?

I like the idea of using the 30-30 die as a collet, I may get one.

Thanks again!

Jim

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What do you guys think of this lathe? It is on sale now, and shipping is $23. http://www.grizzly.com/products/4-x-6-Micro-Metal-Lathe/G0745 Those $100-$200 ones on ebay look OK but I want this to last. I was contemplating a trip to Harbor Freight, but for $23 shipping... Help picking out bits or bit...

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I agree about the 30-30 after studying the various drawings.

Thanks

Jim

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The package of ammo even warned some will crack and it is normal and not under any warranty.

The gun's bolt is stamped .32 Rem, so I think it is.
I don't think it would be that accurate in a larger barrel either.
The gun looks almost new.

Jim

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I was envisioning a custom tool to make both the rim cut and the extractor groove cut at once.
I may investigate it more later once I get a lathe and cut a few myself. It has been a long time since I used a lathe.
Shells will be out in Mondays mail.

Thanks

Jim

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Yes, sorry neck splits for sure. 3 out of 25 split.

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Cases split from both types I have fired. Cabelas Obsolete line with no head stamp, and CMA with 38-55 head stamps. I have already fired all of the CMA stuff. I have one full box of the Cabelas left and one full factory box of Remington from maybe the 1950's. This is one of the reasons I am consider...

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I haven't fired the factory ammo yet, but I would be glad to send you two empties of the other two types I have. One is Cabelas Obsolete line. No head stamp. They functioned fine. The other was from an out of business company called CMA. These are head stamped 38-55 and again functioned perfectly. P...

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Grumpa,

I have some factory Remington .32 ammo.
Would you like one for tooling/measuring purposes?
I was thinking of tooling up for making .32 cases as well.
Could you explain hydroforming a little more?

Thanks

Jim

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Hopefully I can post these pics.
6 shot group is 2.25"
3 shot group is 1.25"
50 yards with a 40 mph wind mostly oncoming.
Peep sights with a loaner small aperture.

Some of the cases cracked. Do you think it is OK to load the others?

Thanks

Jim

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.30 Rem is what I ordered from Buffalo arms, as I assumed they were resizing to .32 anyway and .32 Rem was 2X the price. I already found .32 Win Spec on gunbroker, although not a lot. Maybe the project should include a new gun in .32 Win Spec. and lots of ammo. I was shocked at the prices of the lat...

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It doesn't look like Buffalo Arms is going to fill my year old order. I was considering this before, but now that there are Chinese mini-lathes for under $150, and S&S Hunt Club keeps buying up all the ammo on Gunbroker, I may actually tool up. What would be the best parent case to start with? I...

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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =431877506

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http://www.prices4antiques.com/Advertis ... 16596.html
Is this the one?

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So I shouldn't have given away my Rock Chucker press? I would likely try the water anneal method. 32 Remington dies are it then. Glad I asked. I think I will lube liberally, then clean before or after annealing in the tumbler? What exactly is neck turning? Just length? Is the lack of annealing likel...

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Assuming my .30 Remington cases come in from Buffalo Arms at the end of the month, I will need some dies. I will be converting the .30 to .32. Since the .32 Win Spec. dies are readily available, and the .32 Remington are hard to find and 2X the price, would it be wise to get the .32 Win Spec. or sho...

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I ordered some .30 Rem cases from Buffalo Arms several weeks ago.
The site now has a delivery date.
They may only run them once or twice a year.

http://www.buffaloarms.com/30_Remingtio ... x?CAT=3835

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If you get it to work properly, how light is that trigger pull?
If it was me I would dis-assemble. You will then in all likely-hood see what the issue is with the trigger assy. out.
Then decide if it needs a gunsmith or not.

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I contacted Bob, but he said he was out. I went to ebay. Someone had 6 of them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-Model-8-81-Barrel-Disassembly-Gunsmithing-Tool-Spanner-Wrench-/201081098888?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=XZCc2YdEN1pxNLjPhTLlP9ThWAE%253D&...

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I like you am interested in the experts answer, as I am a new owner as well. I did a complete tear down on mine except the barrel. I now have the tool from ebay to do the barrel. If you have done an A5 or Model 11 or Savage clone, you can do it easily. I actually did my Savage 750SC twice completely...

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Check this thing out.
Sort of useless in the Model 8 or 81, unless you wanted a bolt action with really low recoil.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =417884554

Jim

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I have wanted to learn to sew as well. For boating items mostly.
J.M. Browning was excellent with a sewing machine as well!

Jim

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That is a nice one.
I too am a new 81 owner (.32 Remington)
I am in the sissy category as well.
I slapped one on after 5 rds. It didn't help a whole lot, but it is a fun classic!

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I would like to try these. http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=175&category=6&secondary=&keywords= My biggest problem with reloading is going to be finding a suitable powder. I have RX7 on hand and a very old unopened 1 lb. can of IMR4350 (too slow I think). I also have SR47...

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1938 Model 81 in .32 Remington. Well, I managed to shoot it today. WOW! Recoil was brutal. I used two types of ammo that came with the gun. The CMA marked box, I only shot 5. Cases were splitting the necks. (38-55 head stamp) I shot a whole box of Cabela's Obsolete line. Those looked like sturdier c...

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Sarge, I may take you up on it. Someday you will run out though won't you? When I find something I like, I may shoot it a lot. (not as much as a shotgun though) How many rounds do you guys put through one gun in a year? I guess this is why we buy a lot of guns, to spread out the round count to diffe...

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Breakage was my secondary concern. The rust factor was #1. My action spring was noticeably more rusted where it made contact with the plug. But this is my first Model 81. I am hoping to find the barrel take down tool, or make my own. How do they look (the barrel assy.) when you first tear them down?...

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Does anyone have the .32 Remington SAAMI drawing in pdf?

I may actually start making cartridges for mine. I plan on shooting it for the first time this weekend.
Wish me luck.
There is someone on gunbroker now selling loaded ammo for $170 for a 50 rd. box.

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I successfully stripped the new to me 81 in .32 Remington. Everything looked nice except the back 1/2 of the action spring. Lots of rust. I cleaned it up, but I am thinking that wooden plug is an issue. Wood attracts moisture. Is this an issue or only in my head? Anyone have a steel one made? Wouldn...

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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =413921656
I have been to this guys shop.
His collection is pretty neat.

Jim

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It is a Williams.
Should I remove it to check for rust?
Also should I consider tearing down the barrel for a cleaning?

Those videos you guys have are awesome.

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