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by cantgrowup
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: GB M81
Replies: 1
Views: 153

Re: GB M81

Good catch! Probably 1912 M8 receiver with M81 trigger housing.
by cantgrowup
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:23 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Hamer special
Replies: 7
Views: 340

Re: Hamer special

There were several errors in the placards related to Bonnie and Clyde history when I went to the Waco "Texas Rangers Museum" in 2016. For example, there was a Winchester Model 1910 .401 rifle (Cat. No. 2030) that said "This Winchester .401 caliber shotgun [sic] was taken from Ray Hamilton in Grayson...
by cantgrowup
Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:04 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Round knob M8s
Replies: 6
Views: 527

Re: Round knob M8s

Hmmm.... the extra screw is on the butt end of the tang. On straight stocks the stock screw is near the end of the trigger housing tang. On curved Model 8 tangs for round or half-knob stocks, the stock screw is farther up. Yours has screws in both of those positions. Have you had the stock off to se...
by cantgrowup
Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:19 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Round knob M8s
Replies: 6
Views: 527

Re: Round knob M8s

Can you post a picture of the 3-screw tang?
by cantgrowup
Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:03 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)
Replies: 16
Views: 2973

Re: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)

Well.... after reading all the other posts on wood buffers in .25-35 Rem guns, I have decided that it was definitely a factory installation. Why? We may and probably will never know. I believe that the original buffer in my gun and these others was made from oak. But since I was fishing for solution...
by cantgrowup
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:54 am
Forum: History of the 8 /81
Topic: Ya gotta love these GB guys!
Replies: 7
Views: 1342

Re: Ya gotta love these GB guys!

WOW! Another Frankengun to add to my collection! I'm going to BIN! :lol:

I wonder how much they want for the pool table.. and what the shipping would be.
by cantgrowup
Mon May 31, 2021 10:29 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)
Replies: 16
Views: 2973

Re: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)

Yesterday, I tried my new wood buffer that I made from a 7/8" wood dowel rod. I had also polished the chamber with a large bronze bore brush with a little Flitz paste on a patch using a drill motor. Fired 10 rounds with no problems. Gun functioned perfectly.
by cantgrowup
Wed May 26, 2021 9:01 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)
Replies: 16
Views: 2973

Re: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing

I've made a new wood buffer from a 7/8" wooden dowel rod and drilled it out with a 9/16" spade bit. I also polished the chamber and will try to fire the gun again before trying the spring. If it functions with the new wood buffer, I might just leave it be.
by cantgrowup
Wed May 26, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Finally got this sucker apart!! Rem 8 .25 Rem
Replies: 6
Views: 1167

Re: Finally got this sucker apart!! Rem 8 .25 Rem

I'm glad you got it apart. These .25 Rem and .25-35 Rem guns are proving to be a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. However, I think that we have enough evidence to prove that the guns did at one time come with a wood buffer instead of a spring, even if Henwood and other authorities can...
by cantgrowup
Mon May 24, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: General
Topic: .32 Rem brass at Grafs HEADS UP!
Replies: 12
Views: 2894

Re: .32 Rem brass at Grafs HEADS UP!

Just fired some Grafs .25 Rem brass (2nd loading). Actually, I only fired one and notice two splits on the neck at the shoulder. I immediately stopped. I pulled the bullets and powder from 10 rounds and reloaded in some new Grafs unfired brass that I had annealed. I shot these loads in the same gun ...
by cantgrowup
Mon May 24, 2021 4:10 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: First range trip with 108 year old .25 Remington!
Replies: 4
Views: 1035

Re: First range trip with 108 year old .25 Remington!

Do you have a Rem 8/81 specific tool that you are using to get the barrel bushing nut out of the shroud? Instead of WD-40 or regular lubricating oils, try some Liquid Wrench, Kroil, or other penetrating oil.
by cantgrowup
Sun May 23, 2021 5:50 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer
Replies: 4
Views: 1327

Re: WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer

Thanks Rifleman!
by cantgrowup
Sun May 23, 2021 5:43 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)
Replies: 16
Views: 2973

Re: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing

I say I'm looking for a .25 Rem buffer spring AND washer(s) because in my only other .25 Rem Model 8, there was a weak buffer spring (I could compress it with my fingers, unlike any other 8/81 caliber spring) AND two solid "spacer" washers on the receiver end of the buffer spring. None of my other 8...
by cantgrowup
Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)
Replies: 16
Views: 2973

Re: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing

Thanks guys. Yes... I will continue to look for the unicorn (.25 Rem buffer spring and washer). Hopefully someone on this forum has a spare for sale. In the meantime, I will polish the chamber..... and then try to make a replacement wood buffer if I can get access to a lathe.
by cantgrowup
Sun May 23, 2021 2:15 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer
Replies: 4
Views: 1327

Re: WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer

I see what you mean, but the picture is a bit deceiving. This is the same order that they came out of the shroud. The wooden plug looks deformed on the washer side in the picture. However, the split washer fits perfectly on the end of the wood plug and both are the same OD as the shroud ID. I made s...
by cantgrowup
Sat May 22, 2021 4:25 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer
Replies: 4
Views: 1327

WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer

I badly need a .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer(s) because this is what I found in my .25-35 Rem barrel assembly. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210511_130836_resized.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds WILLING TO PAY $150 FOR THE SPRING AND WASHER(S). I can also t...
by cantgrowup
Sat May 22, 2021 2:21 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)
Replies: 16
Views: 2973

Barrel sticking to the rear after firing (SOLVED !)

Fired 10 rounds in my .25-35 Rem for first time this week (the one I discussed with the wooden "buffer" instead of a conventional steel buffer spring). I fired one round at a time for function testing and for each of the first five rounds, the barrel would remain in the full recoil position, with th...
by cantgrowup
Fri May 14, 2021 1:41 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: Front sight for Model 8/81 (Remington, Lyman, Marbles, or King)
Replies: 0
Views: 946

Front sight for Model 8/81 (Remington, Lyman, Marbles, or King)

I am looking for a standard front bead-type sight for my 1909 Model 8. Ideally I'd like the Remington early type with the set screw, but would settle for one without the set screw..... or a Lyman, Marbles, or King aftermarket bead front sight. Send email to cantgrowup@hotmail.com
Thanks
by cantgrowup
Tue May 11, 2021 7:01 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Wood Spacer
Replies: 27
Views: 16626

Re: Wood Spacer

Well.... here's a May 2021 posting for this old thread. My "new" .25-35 also has a wood "buffer" and a split washer that looks exactly like ones posted earlier My rifle SN is 165xx and was made in 1909. The rifle is in good shape otherwise. What I initially thought was a "shade-tree" gunsmith modifi...
by cantgrowup
Tue May 11, 2021 12:30 pm
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer
Replies: 0
Views: 902

WTB: .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer

I badly need a .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer(s) because this is what I found in my .25-35 Rem barrel assembly. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210511_130836_resized.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Money is no object! ;) I can also throw in one of my famous ba...
by cantgrowup
Mon May 10, 2021 2:12 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: .25-35 Rem with odd trigger guard and buffer spring
Replies: 4
Views: 1077

.25-35 Rem with odd trigger guard and buffer spring

Picked this ".25-35 Rem" marked Model 8 up on GB last week (SN 195xx) which dates to 1909. Something that looks odd is a small oval cut-out in the trigger guard immediately below the trigger. Any thoughts? https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210510_134631_resized.jpg?width=1920&...
by cantgrowup
Mon May 10, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: .32 Rem brass at Grafs HEADS UP!
Replies: 12
Views: 2894

Re: .32 Rem brass at Grafs HEADS UP!

I use a Bench Source Ultimate Annealing machine to anneal my brass, and Templaq paints to determine necessary times.
by cantgrowup
Wed May 05, 2021 3:41 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Guns Show Finds: You Just Never Know!
Replies: 4
Views: 1512

Re: Guns Show Finds: You Just Never Know!

Did anybody on our forum buy this Texas Ranger rifle?
by cantgrowup
Wed May 05, 2021 3:33 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: What year is 16xxx?
Replies: 1
Views: 671

What year is 16xxx?

Just bought a Model 8 on GB with SN 16xxx (seller did not narrow it down to third digit). What year would that be? I'm away from home and don't have access to my Henwood book. Thanks.
by cantgrowup
Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:13 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Nickel plated model 81
Replies: 3
Views: 1139

Re: Nickel plated model 81

Are these just rhetorical questions..... or do you have such a creature? If so, let's see some pics! :D
by cantgrowup
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:13 pm
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: New Rem Model 8/81 barrel tool for sale (Second batch is ready for sale)
Replies: 23
Views: 11770

Re: New Rem Model 8/81 barrel tool for sale (Second batch is ready for sale))

Next batch of 25 tools is ready. Have 11 tools left from this batch unspoken for.
by cantgrowup
Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:31 am
Forum: History of the 8 /81
Topic: New movie about Bonnie and Clyde
Replies: 4
Views: 5776

Re: New movie about Bonnie and Clyde

Hamer most likely did not have any form of BAR at the ambush. He used a Rem 8 in an unspecified caliber. Hinton was the only LEO with a BAR, which he borrowed from the Texas National Guard, I believe.
by cantgrowup
Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: My model 81 barrel tool
Replies: 8
Views: 2206

Re: My model 81 barrel tool

Charles,

I have barrel shroud take-down tools for sale. Check the For Sale section of this forum.
by cantgrowup
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:01 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 8 or 81? Including Pictures
Replies: 15
Views: 3401

Re: 8 or 81? Including Pictures

Oops! My mistake!
by cantgrowup
Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:04 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 8 or 81? Including Pictures
Replies: 15
Views: 3401

Re: 8 or 81? Including Pictures

What is your rifle's serial number? From the pic it looks like 7322, which would be 1907. Why do you say yours was made in 1928?

Your rifle's stock also has the raised cheeks which only on the early guns before 1919.
by cantgrowup
Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:39 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 8 or 81? Including Pictures
Replies: 15
Views: 3401

Re: 8 or 81? Including Pictures

The book also says that your "round bottom" pistol grip (also called "round knob" grip) was one of the least common Model 8's.
by cantgrowup
Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:35 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 8 or 81? Including Pictures
Replies: 15
Views: 3401

Re: 8 or 81? Including Pictures

The 8 and 81 rifles did not come with sling mounts. Starting in 1920, the barrel shroud had a threaded hole and screw where one can be mounted. The buttstock had no swivel mounting provided, except on the metal buttplates with the bottom tang some owners would replace the buttplate screw in the bott...
by cantgrowup
Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:52 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 8 or 81? Including Pictures
Replies: 15
Views: 3401

Re: 8 or 81? Including Pictures

According to Henwood's book "The Great Remington 8 and Model 81 Autoloading Rifles", your rifle was made in 1907 (If I'm correct reading your serial number as 7322) and is a Model 8. The EUU3 code is odd in that it has an extra U. EU3 would mean a factory repair in Oct 1927. I'm not sure what the ex...
by cantgrowup
Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:30 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

Re: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)

Intellivore, If you look at the fourth pic in the first group of pics in my original post, you will see where a gunsmith welded a second angled stock bolt hole on top of the original stock bolt hole upper tang of the Model 8 receiver. This allowed the curved tang of the Model 81 to be fitted to the ...
by cantgrowup
Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:12 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

Re: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)

Well... the Frankengun 8/81 .250 Savage shoots okay. Here's a six-shot group at 50-yds using factory Remington Core-Lokt 100 gr loads. I shot a total of 20 and had two stove-pipe jams of empty cases, so maybe the action isn't cycling hard enough with this load. I will measure the twist rate later to...
by cantgrowup
Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:40 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

Re: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)

Yes Rifleman, there are two dovetail slots on the barrel (the rear has been filled). Last night, I loaded one of my factory .250-3000 cartridges in the magazine box, chambered it, and ejected it. Later this week, I will go shoot it. I measured the barrels just in front of the barrel extension and at...
by cantgrowup
Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:53 am
Forum: General
Topic: .32 Rem brass at Grafs HEADS UP!
Replies: 12
Views: 2894

Re: .32 Rem brass at Grafs HEADS UP!

I've had problems with Graf's .32 and .30 Rem brass splitting necks on first and second loads. At a dollar a case, I now anneal all Grafs brass before loading the first time and will re-anneal after every other loading.
by cantgrowup
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:24 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

Re: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)

Well.... the factory Remington 100gr Core-Lokt ammo is on its way. I'll let you guys know if and how the gun functions. Fingers crossed!
by cantgrowup
Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:35 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

Re: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in 250 Savage)

I notice that the buffer spring is the stronger style, but has been cut down by the gunsmith to a shorter length. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210318_161353_resized.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds I'm beginning to realize that this guy really put a lot of thought an...
by cantgrowup
Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:14 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: What are these two "spots" on the receiver?
Replies: 5
Views: 1531

Re: What are these two "spots" on the receiver?

If you look closely on all 8/81s, you'll see the pins. Some are still hidden better by the bluing... and others with more wear are more visible. I have a Model 8 with three separate factory repair stamps. I'll bet that one of the trips back to the factory was to replace that bolt lock activation ram...
by cantgrowup
Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:07 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

Re: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in 250 Savage)

I've disassembled the bolt assembly and noticed something different from my other 8s and 81s bolt carriers. The "bolt lock pin" that holds the "bolt lock" lever does not have a hole drilled all the way through the bolt carrier. There is only a hole at the top of the carrier... and therefore no way I...
by cantgrowup
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:13 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

Re: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in 250 Savage)

Nope... It's not detachable. However, a very interesting fact is that when I pulled the mag box out of the trigger housing, a small semi-circular "shim" fell out in my hand. I determined that this was being used as a spacer in the recessed front of the trigger guard so that the mag box would not sit...
by cantgrowup
Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:55 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)
Replies: 17
Views: 3403

My first and I hope my last "Frankengun" (in .250-3000 Savage)

Well... I bought a Model 8/81 "Frankengun" in what turns out to be 250 Savage. It was marked "250REM" on the visible part of the barrel extension, but after buying it and taking it down, it shows "250REM. 3000". It has a 1913 Model 8 receiver (SN 318xx) but with a Model 81 trigger housing and stock ...
by cantgrowup
Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:50 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Split case necks on Grafs .32 Rem hand loads
Replies: 8
Views: 2337

Re: Split case necks on Grafs .32 Rem hand loads

I took a brand new batch of Grafs .32 Rem brass and annealed them. Then I loaded 20 of them with the same loads that had split the neck/shoulders on the previous batch. Of these, today I shot 10 and none experienced split necks or shoulders. My lesson learned is that I will anneal ALL Grafs brass fr...
by cantgrowup
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:06 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Barrel lock and Barrel lock spring
Replies: 6
Views: 1855

Re: Barrel lock and Barrel lock spring

This superb animation was apparently hiding in plain sight, buried deep inside an hour-long video from two WWI service weapon aficionados about how Model 8's were never used by ground troops in the Great War ....and only sparingly by some biplane aircrews. :lol:
by cantgrowup
Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:17 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Barrel lock and Barrel lock spring
Replies: 6
Views: 1855

Re: Barrel lock and Barrel lock spring

That is an excellent animation of the Model 8/81 long recoil action! Thanks.
by cantgrowup
Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:45 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Barrel lock and Barrel lock spring
Replies: 6
Views: 1855

Re: Barrel lock and Barrel lock spring

The little flat springs on the barrel lock and on the magazine indicator are both easily removed with a push punch. They are not crimped into place, and yours could have easily fallen out if the slot was looser than normal. Yes, a magnetic pan is an essential for working on Model 8/81s ! Even though...
by cantgrowup
Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:30 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: 81 barrel wrench?
Replies: 2
Views: 1088

Re: 81 barrel wrench?

I make a barrel take-down tool. Check out my post below in "For Sale or Trade".

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by cantgrowup
Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:56 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Split case necks on Grafs .32 Rem hand loads
Replies: 8
Views: 2337

Re: Split case necks on Grafs .32 Rem hand loads

Thanks Cam. I just did a search (should have done that first, I guess) and sure enough, there was a 2019 thread on split necks on Graf .30 Rem brass..... started by me! :o I load so many calibers that I had totally forgotten about that. But being my second issue with Model 8/81 cartridges, I guess t...