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by Fred
Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:35 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Help with barrel jacket bushing removal
Replies: 4
Views: 223

Re: Help with barrel jacket bushing removal

I'd have a tool like this one made out of a grade-8 nut and use heat plus an impact wrench on the bushing to free it up. If all else fails, then anyone with a lathe can cut the bushing out instead.
by Fred
Tue May 01, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)
Replies: 10
Views: 1016

Re: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)

Well as long as they keep it between 2.5TPI and 72TPI (and some metric options) I can accommodate them, regardless of their insanity. As an anecdote, I worked in an aerospace prototype machine shop for 7 years and have handled parts that are currently on Mars. I worked with things between 00-90s and...
by Fred
Tue May 01, 2018 10:11 am
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)
Replies: 10
Views: 1016

Re: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)

It's possible that someone altered a 60+ year old rifle to be something other than factory too. I have been frustrated in the past that the industry that established interchangeable parts has so many oddball and otherwise non-stardard fasteners/hardware. In fact I've gone out of my way to make some ...
by Fred
Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:32 am
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)
Replies: 10
Views: 1016

Re: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)

I just wanted to say that my M81 fore-arm screw is not an #8-32. My ~1945 M81 screw is a #12-28. Friggin' oddball.
by Fred
Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:16 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.
Replies: 8
Views: 951

Re: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.

I meant the barrel assembly. Other than the potential headspace issue you should be able to swap interchangeably between 35 Rem and 300 Savage in the Model 81.
by Fred
Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:56 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.
Replies: 8
Views: 951

Re: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.

Based on my experience with my 35 Rem M81 I can't see why you would not be able to swap barrels to a 300 savage with your existing rifle. The springs and bushings in the barrel jacket are the same as far as I've seen. The headspacing might be slightly different but it'd be easy enough to check. If y...
by Fred
Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: FS: New .30 Remington Brass
Replies: 0
Views: 765

FS: New .30 Remington Brass

This is not my advertisement, I do not know who this is nor have I done business with this person, that having been said he's got 500 new .30 Remington Brass for sale "from Grafs" for $78 shipped per 100. Figured people looking for hard-to find consumables would benefit. http://castboolits.gunloads....
by Fred
Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:38 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: delete this post
Replies: 3
Views: 894

Re: M8 and M81 barrel thread sizes

About any job shop should be able to cut a steel stub to fit the barrel nut threads snugly, then cut some flutes in the stub allowing for debris someplace to go to. Should be good enough to clean out existing threads. One would think that that sort of work would be fairly inexpensive to complete. It...
by Fred
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:47 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: delete this post
Replies: 3
Views: 894

Re: M8 and M81 barrel thread sizes

I measured my M81 35Rem barrel at Ø.600-24 for the nut. You'd do better with a lathe I think. Custom taps/dies are not inexpensive.
by Fred
Tue May 09, 2017 6:41 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw
Replies: 7
Views: 1116

Re: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw

Email sent.

I'd rather have tools/material than cash.
Do not send me any firearm receivers!
I have a model 81 I can use as a template for most parts.
by Fred
Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:02 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw
Replies: 7
Views: 1116

Re: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw

Glad to hear it.
by Fred
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:55 am
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw
Replies: 7
Views: 1116

Re: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw

If you come up short, I can try to make you one on my lathe if you're interested. I'll use my M81's forend screw as a template.
by Fred
Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:28 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: WTB: barrel/jacket parts for making a 16" carbine.
Replies: 0
Views: 707

WTB: barrel/jacket parts for making a 16" carbine.

Hey Everyone. I would like to get the parts arranged so that I can proceed with making a 35 Rem carbine barrel. I can find parts onesey-twosey but I don't want to have to pay triple shipping. So I'm looking for a 35 Rem barrel, buffer spring and recoil spring for a reasonable price, so I can get sta...
by Fred
Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:38 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 308 Brass to 35
Replies: 19
Views: 3148

Re: 308 Brass to 35

I am aware that the 81 is chambered in 300 Savage and that today the 300Sav is loaded to a higher pressure than 35Rem despite a .020" larger case head making for more bolt thrust than what would be experienced with the .35 at the same pressures. Yes, with hand loading you can exceed the SAAMI spec w...
by Fred
Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:15 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 308 Brass to 35
Replies: 19
Views: 3148

Re: 308 Brass to 35

I chronied a 215gr paper patched cast air-cooled clip-on wheel weight projectile at 2150fps from my M8 with 44gr of H414. The powder was settled (tapped) and just level with the base of the neck inside the case. Cartridge overall length was close to 2.550" It gives a good shoulder massage. I would s...
by Fred
Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:04 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 308 Brass to 35
Replies: 19
Views: 3148

Re: 308 Brass to 35

I don't think the loss of case capacity is the concern with the thick brass. I think it's a pressure problem for a given load. The difference in capacity is something you could actually measure if you already had some factory 35 brass for comparison, but it's more practical to reduce the book loads ...
by Fred
Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: WHERE ARE YOU?
Replies: 27
Views: 5598

Re: WHERE ARE YOU?

I've been working overseas for several months. I was not allowed to bring my guns along so I've got nothing to contribute. I still read a few posts whenever I have time. Whenever I get back home I intend to figure out how to get my .35 M8 to shoot better than pie plate at 25yds. :cry: I'm interested...
by Fred
Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:54 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: Maximum cartridge length in an 81?
Replies: 3
Views: 2616

Re: Maximum cartridge length in an 81?

I think the 300Sav and the 35Rem share the same magazine and follower, if not someone correct me.

That said, I had reasonable success using 2.550" in my 35 Rem. Bullet nose profile made quite a bit of difference in feeding reliability.
by Fred
Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:43 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: looking for .35 Remington cast bullet
Replies: 2
Views: 1906

Re: looking for .35 Remington cast bullet

For 35rem the RCBS 35-200 have pretty much always fit each other.

You should be able to buy them ready-made from vendors online. IIRC montana bullet works is a reputable place. But buying cast projectiles can become expensive. Might do you good to do a cost/benefit analysis
by Fred
Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:15 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

I'd be happy to make some for forum members. You (and everyone else) would have to wait though.

If you really really want one now I can sell you the one that's on my M81. I won't be using it for a while.
by Fred
Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:09 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Sorry, Mr. 10ring. Shortly after I made that base I took a job overseas. No guns or gun fab projects for a while. :(
by Fred
Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:38 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Model 81 owner
Replies: 2
Views: 1550

Re: Model 81 owner

Take some news paper and some heavy duty vice grips. Fold the news paper over a few times to make some sacrificial soft jaws for the vice grips. Wrap up the take down screw head so that you can lock the vice grips on and then give it a turn. You might try the heat and penetrating oil first. You migh...
by Fred
Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:26 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Annealing the brass
Replies: 5
Views: 2126

Re: Annealing the brass

I would be careful with molten KNO3 and things like aluminum not to mention any organic matter. Pot. Nitrate is a very good oxidiser which is why it's used for black powder.... In my opinion you're playing with things worse than fire.
by Fred
Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:09 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

An update. I tried a few more handloads, jacketed and cast, and some factory jacketed ammo and it holds about a pie-pate at 100yds. I tried my same loads in a Contender single shot and they all do far better at the same range. So I guess my Model 81 is just not destined to give me the accuracy I wan...
by Fred
Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:02 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Barrel jacket scope mount
Replies: 8
Views: 2531

Re: Barrel jacket scope mount

I put a reflex sight on mine, and found a couple other photos of pistol-scoped M8s too:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3830
by Fred
Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:07 am
Forum: Welcome Wagon
Topic: Inherited Model 8
Replies: 4
Views: 1602

Re: Inherited Model 8

For what it's worth, I have seen both the 35rem Remington Corelokt and the Hornady LE on the shelf in the last few months. The GB stuff is outrageous, I don't know who's buying that, but its sure isn't me. Get the converted .308WIN brass mentioned here on GM8 forums, an inexpensive Lee press and loa...
by Fred
Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:13 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: 25 rem primer problem?
Replies: 15
Views: 4821

Re: 25 rem primer problem?

Find a smith with a bore scope and have a look for yourself what the chamber looks like.
by Fred
Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:14 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Charlie, When I first got the rifle I pulled it apart and removed all the crust and grime and regreased most of it to prevent any excessive wear, especially the moving parts int he barrel jacket. I am also seating bulelts out as far as practical to keep the projectile close to the lands. The 35 Rem...
by Fred
Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:24 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Monkeying around with the rifle some more, I noticed that the ocular on the, admittedly cheap, scope was loose and the sight picture was sloppy, so I figured I'd try something else. Light weight, low-profile and very shock/recoil resistant: Burris reflex sight. If it works as well as it has on my 10...
by Fred
Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:47 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Yes. it's .3495" bore (pin gauged at muzzle) .357 +.001"-.000" groove.
by Fred
Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:25 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Thanks for the suggestions. I've had the gun totally apart, cleaned, function checked, lubed and reassembled. So I'm pretty sure that everything's tight and in as good a condition as can be expected for a 60 year old rifle. The bore is pretty shiny and overall good condition. I got out the calculato...
by Fred
Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:55 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 6423

Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

I've been tinkering with my 81 in 35rem and it's not grouping well at all with factory or handloads, jacketed or cast (~6" at 70yards with iron sights or scope). So, can anyone recommend a procedure for accurizing the 8/81s or am I just out of luck? I don't need it to be a tack driver, just a few in...
by Fred
Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:55 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: cleaning gone wrong: help
Replies: 4
Views: 1909

Re: cleaning gone wrong: help

Sounds like a good reason it'd lock back.

From this series of photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/buster_ch ... 3271360342
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by Fred
Fri May 23, 2014 1:38 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: SAAMI drawing
Replies: 5
Views: 1734

Re: SAAMI drawing

How many rounds do you guys put through one gun in a year? I've got a cast bullet single shot carbine that I'll put maybe 1000 rounds through a year and another long range bolt that will see another 1000 or more. Low pressures make the brass last many reloads. Neck-sizing and annealing the necks ex...
by Fred
Tue May 20, 2014 1:12 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: My second Model 81 in .300 Savage!
Replies: 2
Views: 1474

Re: My second Model 81 in .300 Savage!

Looks very nice. How does it shoot?
Thank you for sharing pictures.
by Fred
Tue May 20, 2014 12:57 pm
Forum: Welcome Wagon
Topic: Hello Model 8 Forum
Replies: 8
Views: 2964

Re: Hello Model 8 Forum

I too had to buy an expensive box of ammo just for some brass for the M81. Now that I've a few pieces of brass to reload I'm not too worried about availability of components. FWIW, I didn't want to run high pressure stuff though the antique either, so I pulled the facotry ammo apart and down loaded ...
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 4:26 pm
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.
Replies: 2
Views: 1570

Re: For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.

Yeah, well, he's got an email address. You could ask for some. Otherwise, I don't think the people on that forum are real savvy with the digital media... They spend too much money on Holland and Holland double rifles and $50,000 African dangerous game hunts.
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 10:21 am
Forum: Pics of your 8/81's
Topic: Pictures of my .35 Rem Model 81
Replies: 2
Views: 2299

Re: Pictures of my .35 Rem Model 81

I took the enitre back half apart and gave her a thorough cleaning. the bolt was a little sticky and I wanted it to run on ball bearings. I took a picture of the mess before reassembly.
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 10:18 am
Forum: General
Topic: New 81..
Replies: 5
Views: 1955

Re: New 81..

Welcome to the forum! She looks like a real looker, that one.
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 10:04 am
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.
Replies: 2
Views: 1570

For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.

I don't know who this is or anything about the Model 8 but I did come across the for sale add: http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5451078981/m/8631039991 The gun listed here has been 100% inspected and cleaned/test fired by master gunsmith Scott Ormsby. The price of the gun inclu...
by Fred
Mon May 05, 2014 8:24 am
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: Nice looking Model 81, 300 Savage on Armslist
Replies: 3
Views: 1434

Re: Nice looking Model 81, 300 Savage on Armslist

Welcome to the forum Shorty! Just going by pictures, I'm not sure the Armslist one is really worth all that much more than this one: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=414122920 I doubt the Armslist one is the original stock finish and the buttpad's not factory. The GB one might be ...
by Fred
Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:36 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: load data for 25 rem
Replies: 5
Views: 1909

Re: load data for 25 rem

While I have no .25Rem reloading experience, unless you have no other powders available, I too would suggest a smaller amount of faster-burning powder. Clean burning powder is more important for an autoloader than single or bolt-action rifles. If you're determined to use H4350, then I'd use heavy-fo...
by Fred
Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:44 am
Forum: Welcome Wagon
Topic: New Model 8 owner
Replies: 9
Views: 2101

Re: New Model 8 owner

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for sharing the history of your Model 8!

I'd worry more about cleaning and refreshing up the ol' girl before worrying about finding 30rem brass. Sounds like it could use a little attention though not that much. ;)

Looking forward to a picture.
by Fred
Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:22 am
Forum: Hunting with the 8 / 81
Topic: A Model 81 "Rigged for Pig"
Replies: 12
Views: 5679

Re: A Model 81 "Rigged for Pig"

Good shooting! Nice to see it green there in Texas too! Thank you for sharing your hunt with us.
by Fred
Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:29 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: How to modify other cartridge cases to use in Model 8 & 81.
Replies: 7
Views: 2610

Re: How to modify other cartridge cases to use in Model 8 &

Adam, 303brit's SAAMI operating pressure (45,000cup) is higher than .35Rem and really the only modification to the 303Brit is to turn off the rim and cut a shallow extractor groove. At 35rem pressures, the modification should present no issue if done right. There are several 'modern' manufacturers o...
by Fred
Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:28 am
Forum: Welcome Wagon
Topic: Hello Model 8 forum
Replies: 12
Views: 3464

Re: Hello Model 8 forum

Great looking rifle, Joe! What's it chambered in?
by Fred
Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:22 am
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Hornady 200gr FTX Lever Evolution Ammo?
Replies: 8
Views: 2243

Re: Hornady 200gr FTX Lever Evolution Ammo?

Roger wrote:I've found a great amount of accuracy is lost when the barrel nut and barrel jacket bushing become worn. Just like the colt 1911 platform.
Understandably. .002" slop at the end the muzzle is worth about 1/4" at 100 yards. The tighter the assembly the less deviation there will be down range.
by Fred
Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:57 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Hornady 200gr FTX Lever Evolution Ammo?
Replies: 8
Views: 2243

Re: Hornady 200gr FTX Lever Evolution Ammo?

Burried around down in those links somewhere was a good reference that Hornady makes ammo to SAAMI pressure spec. The pressure spec for .35Rem is around 33, 500cup. The Model 81 is also chambered in 300Savage whose pressure spec is 46,000cup and has a larger case head/body than the .35Rem. A larger ...
by Fred
Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:52 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Recoil Spring Compression Tool
Replies: 3
Views: 1822

Re: Recoil Spring Compression Tool

Being uncharacteristically under-tooled at the time, I improvised a with a wooden dowel and a fender washer to align the spring and compress it without it ejecting out the side when compressed. Non-marring, cheap, and effective. For a 67 year old gun my M81 is in wonderful condition! Hardly anything...