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by Fred
Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Hunting with the 8 / 81
Topic: Model 8 Fox
Replies: 4
Views: 184

Re: Model 8 Fox

I'm not sure .358" was big enough. ;) In my area I see grey foxes, never have seen any red ones. I've never shot a fox though as I think they fall under another flavor of license for fur-bearing animals.

Good shooting and thanks for sharing!
by Fred
Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:22 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Short cam pins
Replies: 2
Views: 120

Re: Short cam pins

My M81 cam pins are .561" ±.001 long, they ride the firing pin spring's OD in the middle of the bolt. You can also see where they tested the hardness of the cam pins: there are two tiny dings in the OD of each of the pins. If your .459 pins are not hard (test if a file scratches one end) then they m...
by Fred
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:34 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Short cam pins
Replies: 2
Views: 120

Re: Short cam pins

I have a M81 bolt at home on a desk right now. I can get some pin lengths tonight for comparison.
by Fred
Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: The Great Model 8
Topic: Model 8C -35 Remington
Replies: 13
Views: 448

Re: Model 8C -35 Remington

Sounds nice, I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures.
by Fred
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: Welcome Wagon
Topic: Hello new guy with a Model 81
Replies: 7
Views: 470

Re: Hello new guy with a Model 81

FWIW my 1947 Model 81 in .35 Rem holds 5 down in the mag no problem... just not with the bolt closed. Perhaps the "4+1" designation is more accurate. I gather the intent was to use a 5-round stripper clip to stuff the magazine full then the bolt release would then strip the top round off the mag and...
by Fred
Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:41 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Operating handle removal
Replies: 10
Views: 641

Re: Operating handle removal problem

Maybe try some needle nosed pliers with a little cardboard to grab the pin and give 'er a tug?

Otherwise, ya, beg/borrow/steal a spanner to disassemble the retention pin/spring.
by Fred
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: thegreatmodel8.net
Replies: 8
Views: 988

Re: thegreatmodel8.net

I don't bookmark things, I guess I'm an odd person. I can't remember the forum URL so I generally use a web search that gets me here. That said, once I've got all my browser tabs set up the way I like them I just refresh the "active topic" link to see what's going on.

by Fred
Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: ~FN 1900 Rifle~
Topic: Special Firearm
Replies: 50
Views: 3226

Re: Special Firearm

So, how's it shoot? :D
by Fred
Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:35 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Help with barrel jacket bushing removal
Replies: 4
Views: 833

Re: Help with barrel jacket bushing removal

I'd have a tool like this one made out of a grade-8 nut and use heat plus an impact wrench on the bushing to free it up. If all else fails, then anyone with a lathe can cut the bushing out instead.
by Fred
Tue May 01, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)
Replies: 10
Views: 1718

Re: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)

Well as long as they keep it between 2.5TPI and 72TPI (and some metric options) I can accommodate them, regardless of their insanity. As an anecdote, I worked in an aerospace prototype machine shop for 7 years and have handled parts that are currently on Mars. I worked with things between 00-90s and...
by Fred
Tue May 01, 2018 10:11 am
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)
Replies: 10
Views: 1718

Re: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)

It's possible that someone altered a 60+ year old rifle to be something other than factory too. I have been frustrated in the past that the industry that established interchangeable parts has so many oddball and otherwise non-stardard fasteners/hardware. In fact I've gone out of my way to make some ...
by Fred
Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:32 am
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)
Replies: 10
Views: 1718

Re: forearm screw and bushing Model 8 (8-32)

I just wanted to say that my M81 fore-arm screw is not an #8-32. My ~1945 M81 screw is a #12-28. Friggin' oddball.
by Fred
Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:16 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.
Replies: 8
Views: 1882

Re: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.

I meant the barrel assembly. Other than the potential headspace issue you should be able to swap interchangeably between 35 Rem and 300 Savage in the Model 81.
by Fred
Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:56 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.
Replies: 8
Views: 1882

Re: Model 81 35Rem with 300Savage barrel assembly.

Based on my experience with my 35 Rem M81 I can't see why you would not be able to swap barrels to a 300 savage with your existing rifle. The springs and bushings in the barrel jacket are the same as far as I've seen. The headspacing might be slightly different but it'd be easy enough to check. If y...
by Fred
Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: FS: New .30 Remington Brass
Replies: 0
Views: 1206

FS: New .30 Remington Brass

This is not my advertisement, I do not know who this is nor have I done business with this person, that having been said he's got 500 new .30 Remington Brass for sale "from Grafs" for $78 shipped per 100. Figured people looking for hard-to find consumables would benefit. http://castboolits.gunloads....
by Fred
Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:38 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: delete this post
Replies: 3
Views: 1431

Re: M8 and M81 barrel thread sizes

About any job shop should be able to cut a steel stub to fit the barrel nut threads snugly, then cut some flutes in the stub allowing for debris someplace to go to. Should be good enough to clean out existing threads. One would think that that sort of work would be fairly inexpensive to complete. It...
by Fred
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:47 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: delete this post
Replies: 3
Views: 1431

Re: M8 and M81 barrel thread sizes

I measured my M81 35Rem barrel at Ø.600-24 for the nut. You'd do better with a lathe I think. Custom taps/dies are not inexpensive.
by Fred
Tue May 09, 2017 6:41 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw
Replies: 7
Views: 1823

Re: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw

Email sent.

I'd rather have tools/material than cash.
Do not send me any firearm receivers!
I have a model 81 I can use as a template for most parts.
by Fred
Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:02 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw
Replies: 7
Views: 1823

Re: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw

Glad to hear it.
by Fred
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:55 am
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw
Replies: 7
Views: 1823

Re: Wtb-Model 81 forend screw

If you come up short, I can try to make you one on my lathe if you're interested. I'll use my M81's forend screw as a template.
by Fred
Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:28 pm
Forum: Wanted to buy
Topic: WTB: barrel/jacket parts for making a 16" carbine.
Replies: 0
Views: 1008

WTB: barrel/jacket parts for making a 16" carbine.

Hey Everyone. I would like to get the parts arranged so that I can proceed with making a 35 Rem carbine barrel. I can find parts onesey-twosey but I don't want to have to pay triple shipping. So I'm looking for a 35 Rem barrel, buffer spring and recoil spring for a reasonable price, so I can get sta...
by Fred
Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:38 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 308 Brass to 35
Replies: 19
Views: 3999

Re: 308 Brass to 35

I am aware that the 81 is chambered in 300 Savage and that today the 300Sav is loaded to a higher pressure than 35Rem despite a .020" larger case head making for more bolt thrust than what would be experienced with the .35 at the same pressures. Yes, with hand loading you can exceed the SAAMI spec w...
by Fred
Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:15 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 308 Brass to 35
Replies: 19
Views: 3999

Re: 308 Brass to 35

I chronied a 215gr paper patched cast air-cooled clip-on wheel weight projectile at 2150fps from my M8 with 44gr of H414. The powder was settled (tapped) and just level with the base of the neck inside the case. Cartridge overall length was close to 2.550" It gives a good shoulder massage. I would s...
by Fred
Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:04 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: 308 Brass to 35
Replies: 19
Views: 3999

Re: 308 Brass to 35

I don't think the loss of case capacity is the concern with the thick brass. I think it's a pressure problem for a given load. The difference in capacity is something you could actually measure if you already had some factory 35 brass for comparison, but it's more practical to reduce the book loads ...
by Fred
Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: WHERE ARE YOU?
Replies: 27
Views: 7660

Re: WHERE ARE YOU?

I've been working overseas for several months. I was not allowed to bring my guns along so I've got nothing to contribute. I still read a few posts whenever I have time. Whenever I get back home I intend to figure out how to get my .35 M8 to shoot better than pie plate at 25yds. :cry: I'm interested...
by Fred
Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:54 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: Maximum cartridge length in an 81?
Replies: 3
Views: 2959

Re: Maximum cartridge length in an 81?

I think the 300Sav and the 35Rem share the same magazine and follower, if not someone correct me.

That said, I had reasonable success using 2.550" in my 35 Rem. Bullet nose profile made quite a bit of difference in feeding reliability.
by Fred
Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:43 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: looking for .35 Remington cast bullet
Replies: 2
Views: 2143

Re: looking for .35 Remington cast bullet

For 35rem the RCBS 35-200 have pretty much always fit each other.

You should be able to buy them ready-made from vendors online. IIRC montana bullet works is a reputable place. But buying cast projectiles can become expensive. Might do you good to do a cost/benefit analysis
by Fred
Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:15 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

I'd be happy to make some for forum members. You (and everyone else) would have to wait though.

If you really really want one now I can sell you the one that's on my M81. I won't be using it for a while.
by Fred
Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:09 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Sorry, Mr. 10ring. Shortly after I made that base I took a job overseas. No guns or gun fab projects for a while. :(
by Fred
Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:38 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Model 81 owner
Replies: 2
Views: 1772

Re: Model 81 owner

Take some news paper and some heavy duty vice grips. Fold the news paper over a few times to make some sacrificial soft jaws for the vice grips. Wrap up the take down screw head so that you can lock the vice grips on and then give it a turn. You might try the heat and penetrating oil first. You migh...
by Fred
Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:26 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Annealing the brass
Replies: 5
Views: 2565

Re: Annealing the brass

I would be careful with molten KNO3 and things like aluminum not to mention any organic matter. Pot. Nitrate is a very good oxidiser which is why it's used for black powder.... In my opinion you're playing with things worse than fire.
by Fred
Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:09 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

An update. I tried a few more handloads, jacketed and cast, and some factory jacketed ammo and it holds about a pie-pate at 100yds. I tried my same loads in a Contender single shot and they all do far better at the same range. So I guess my Model 81 is just not destined to give me the accuracy I wan...
by Fred
Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:02 am
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: Barrel jacket scope mount
Replies: 8
Views: 3010

Re: Barrel jacket scope mount

I put a reflex sight on mine, and found a couple other photos of pistol-scoped M8s too:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3830
by Fred
Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:07 am
Forum: Welcome Wagon
Topic: Inherited Model 8
Replies: 4
Views: 1814

Re: Inherited Model 8

For what it's worth, I have seen both the 35rem Remington Corelokt and the Hornady LE on the shelf in the last few months. The GB stuff is outrageous, I don't know who's buying that, but its sure isn't me. Get the converted .308WIN brass mentioned here on GM8 forums, an inexpensive Lee press and loa...
by Fred
Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:13 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: 25 rem primer problem?
Replies: 15
Views: 5734

Re: 25 rem primer problem?

Find a smith with a bore scope and have a look for yourself what the chamber looks like.
by Fred
Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:14 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Charlie, When I first got the rifle I pulled it apart and removed all the crust and grime and regreased most of it to prevent any excessive wear, especially the moving parts int he barrel jacket. I am also seating bulelts out as far as practical to keep the projectile close to the lands. The 35 Rem...
by Fred
Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:24 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Monkeying around with the rifle some more, I noticed that the ocular on the, admittedly cheap, scope was loose and the sight picture was sloppy, so I figured I'd try something else. Light weight, low-profile and very shock/recoil resistant: Burris reflex sight. If it works as well as it has on my 10...
by Fred
Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:47 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Yes. it's .3495" bore (pin gauged at muzzle) .357 +.001"-.000" groove.
by Fred
Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:25 am
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Re: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

Thanks for the suggestions. I've had the gun totally apart, cleaned, function checked, lubed and reassembled. So I'm pretty sure that everything's tight and in as good a condition as can be expected for a 60 year old rifle. The bore is pretty shiny and overall good condition. I got out the calculato...
by Fred
Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:55 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?
Replies: 19
Views: 7510

Any way to improve accuracy on my 35Rem Mod 81?

I've been tinkering with my 81 in 35rem and it's not grouping well at all with factory or handloads, jacketed or cast (~6" at 70yards with iron sights or scope). So, can anyone recommend a procedure for accurizing the 8/81s or am I just out of luck? I don't need it to be a tack driver, just a few in...
by Fred
Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:55 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting / Maintenance
Topic: cleaning gone wrong: help
Replies: 4
Views: 2297

Re: cleaning gone wrong: help

Sounds like a good reason it'd lock back.

From this series of photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/buster_ch ... 3271360342
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by Fred
Fri May 23, 2014 1:38 pm
Forum: Q & A about the 8/81
Topic: SAAMI drawing
Replies: 5
Views: 2035

Re: SAAMI drawing

How many rounds do you guys put through one gun in a year? I've got a cast bullet single shot carbine that I'll put maybe 1000 rounds through a year and another long range bolt that will see another 1000 or more. Low pressures make the brass last many reloads. Neck-sizing and annealing the necks ex...
by Fred
Tue May 20, 2014 1:12 pm
Forum: The Great Model 81 'Woodsmaster'
Topic: My second Model 81 in .300 Savage!
Replies: 2
Views: 1786

Re: My second Model 81 in .300 Savage!

Looks very nice. How does it shoot?
Thank you for sharing pictures.
by Fred
Tue May 20, 2014 12:57 pm
Forum: Welcome Wagon
Topic: Hello Model 8 Forum
Replies: 8
Views: 3493

Re: Hello Model 8 Forum

I too had to buy an expensive box of ammo just for some brass for the M81. Now that I've a few pieces of brass to reload I'm not too worried about availability of components. FWIW, I didn't want to run high pressure stuff though the antique either, so I pulled the facotry ammo apart and down loaded ...
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 4:26 pm
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.
Replies: 2
Views: 1786

Re: For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.

Yeah, well, he's got an email address. You could ask for some. Otherwise, I don't think the people on that forum are real savvy with the digital media... They spend too much money on Holland and Holland double rifles and $50,000 African dangerous game hunts.
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 10:21 am
Forum: Pics of your 8/81's
Topic: Pictures of my .35 Rem Model 81
Replies: 2
Views: 2578

Re: Pictures of my .35 Rem Model 81

I took the enitre back half apart and gave her a thorough cleaning. the bolt was a little sticky and I wanted it to run on ball bearings. I took a picture of the mess before reassembly.
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 10:18 am
Forum: General
Topic: New 81..
Replies: 5
Views: 2318

Re: New 81..

Welcome to the forum! She looks like a real looker, that one.
by Fred
Tue May 06, 2014 10:04 am
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.
Replies: 2
Views: 1786

For sale: Remington Model 8 in 32 Remington.

I don't know who this is or anything about the Model 8 but I did come across the for sale add: http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5451078981/m/8631039991 The gun listed here has been 100% inspected and cleaned/test fired by master gunsmith Scott Ormsby. The price of the gun inclu...
by Fred
Mon May 05, 2014 8:24 am
Forum: For Sale or Trade
Topic: Nice looking Model 81, 300 Savage on Armslist
Replies: 3
Views: 1647

Re: Nice looking Model 81, 300 Savage on Armslist

Welcome to the forum Shorty! Just going by pictures, I'm not sure the Armslist one is really worth all that much more than this one: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=414122920 I doubt the Armslist one is the original stock finish and the buttpad's not factory. The GB one might be ...