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kenhwind

Just curious if anyone here win the Lock Stock and Barrel Remington Model 8C auction on GunBroker?

kenhwind

I started loading using a CH Press my parents had bought for me. My brother had a Lyman Spartan press. He decided we needed a Dillon which was new at the time and we ended up with a used press. He moved up to Saint Augustine and I was still in Ft Lauderdale, FL. I then bought a hardly used Lyman Spa...

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The Lyman "M" die doesn't actually flare the case mouth it has a step in it and expands the very top of the case. Redding sells a spacer kit. Seat the bullet with the spacer then remove the spacer and crimp, but you will have to unscrew the seating die. Yes unless you're taper crimping it is best to...

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Redding dies, good for you, that's what I have. I don't load rifle ammo on the Dillon, the Dillon powder measure doesn't like extruded powder, well no powder measure does. I use a Redding T-7 Turret press, previously used an older Lyman Spar T. Lyman makes an "M" die that makes a three die set and i...

kenhwind

Do I see three extra holes in the side of the receiver?

kenhwind

Loading the .32 Remington shouldn't present any problems. I had a .32 barrel assembly and loaded some up, but have parted with the barrel assembly. I crimp by feel. you should be able to visually see how much crimp you have. You cannot over crimp because it will push the shoulder back. Loading for a...

kenhwind

Considering that old gun cleaning solvent dries up like shellac, and gun oil turns into gum oil, its a good idea to take apart these old Remington's and clean them. I've taken all of ours apart as well as two others we do not have anymore. Some really needed it and some not so much, but considering ...

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I just checked my manuals: The Lyman data lists a Remington case, Remington primer; Sierra 200 grain, H4895 - 38.5 (max) Hornady lists a Remington case, Federal primer; Hornady 200 grain; H4895 - 36.0 Both loads are listed @ about 2,000 fps. You are, like us, shooting a very old rifle, my advice wou...

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Lyman and Marbles made a tang sight that used the existing hole where the tang becomes the receiver. Redfield made a more correctly named receiver sight which required a second hole be drilled and tapped like the OP's gun. Williams also made a receiver sight, more then likely after WWII. This sight ...

kenhwind

Yes looks like for the Redfield.
No body is giving them away.

kenhwind

with the safety down you should be able to see the hammer if it is not cocked. And if it is in the fired position then the riffle cannot go off as you do not know if its loaded.
The safety level isn't loose is it?

kenhwind

If this "E" Grade is in good condition I think that the bolt is glued in place from dried up solvent, which turns into something similar to dried shellac. The only thin locking the bolt is the safety/rocker and if that moves the bolt should retract. I'd take the barrel assembly off and spray some Gu...

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What I'd probably do is try a little heat with a butane lighter. Soaking it is also a good idea.
Old bore cleaner dried up hard like shellac, and you're right most of these rifles have never been disassembled.
You should already have or you can remove the firing pin.

kenhwind

Macon Gunstocks: https://www.shop.macongunstocks.com/Remington-Model-8-Remington-Model-81_c115.htm I'm not into refinishing, and not so much about diminishing value as that I'd have no idea what to expect, and the cost of shipping plus the work kind of makes it prohibitive imo. Years ago it was a mo...

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I bought the tool I use, which is similar to this one, on eBay. Might be a place to go. I would try an eBay listing eBay has a lot of traffic compared to one forum. Once these Model 8 and 81 Rifles have been disassembled and thoroughly cleaned there's really no reason to take the barrel assembled b...

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How is the bore on your 25-35? I have one too, mine was well used metal was good, wood ahh so-so. What prompted me to get a 25 was that I had bought a .32 Remington barrel assembly off of eBay and I thought I'd get a .30, but then considering the 30 and 32 are almost the same, I decided to find a 25...

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I'm pretty sure ours, my brother and I as this was Dad's, is correct as the stock is marked inside as an 8 C which was a higher grade of wood and checkered, probably a standard pattern. I doubt if Remington would have checkered up to the takedown swivel screw.

kenhwind

Here's out 8 C forearm:

kenhwind

I've repaired a loose barrel jacket a couple of times. What I did was get the original pin out, unscrew the barrel jacket from the receiver extension, clean, use numbered drill bits and just go up slightly in pin size.. When reassembling thread the two parts together drill a new hole. Unscrew them s...

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If the screws are 6-48 Brownell's sells an oversized tap and screws.

kenhwind

We have taken all of the 8 & 81 Remington's we have completely apart. While the videos may be good I'd advise to get the NRA Assembly/Disassembly Book as well as the Gun Digest some good tips in both. If you can get the barrel nut off and remove the barrel the jacket inside can be cleaned sufficient...

kenhwind

Go to Huntington RCBS
https://www.huntingtons.com/store/produ ... 906&page=1

Redding dies are half that price.

kenhwind

There is one issue that makes these guns erratic. Open the bolt and look inside, if you see the magazine indicator spring on top of the bolt guides that's the problem.
When reassembling these gun that spring fits into a small slot and has a tendency to slip out when assembling.

kenhwind

I think that someone at Graf's is mistaken. Jamison doesn't list 30 Remington on their site, but Quality cartridge does, and their home page states that their properly headstamped brass is available from Graf & Sons. I was just going through my Graf's .25 Remington brass and noticed that the brass h...

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You could make a Scout type rifle with these. If you took and extra rear sight attaching plate and mounted it in front of the rear sight it might be possible to mount a scope in front of the receiver Scout Rifle or Shotgun style.

kenhwind

A "D" Grade? We have a "C" Grade Model 8 and the only distinguishing thing about it is the higher grade wood and checkering. The stock is marked "C" inside, so I'm pretty sure its legit. Would a "D" Grade have the level of engraving? My first impression is that it is not factory, but I am not qualif...

kenhwind

Oh I make my own too.
We won't be shooting too much of this vintage stuff, my post was to give a heads up on shooting this older ammo.

kenhwind

I buffed the powder off of them. I shot several of the .25's no problem.
We will not shoot anymore of the 30's in the one box, but have others to try out.

kenhwind

I also shot the .25 Remington and have a split case as well as one misfire, well two because one of these misfired before. The misfires were from an old box of Western. The split case is from a red box of Winchesters. I shot a few of these only one seemed to split. https://i.imgur.com/oS1qdpA.jpg ht...

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We also shot these Remington 30 Remington, not a full box either about 14 rounds. Two split case necks. Now I've seen this on occasion over the years, and not always with older ammo.

kenhwind

Went shooting yesterday and we had a box of Western 30 Remington that wasn't full and decided to shoot some. Cases all cracked. Some where shot in one Model 8, the others in the other one. This ammo isn't that old. These were Silvertips, but I had some other loose 30 Remington's also Silvertips that...

kenhwind

I had a .32 barrel assembly and made up a few loads, but I'm not sure if I recorded them. No I didn't, but do have a load listed for the .32 Special 28.0 Reloader 7.

My 45th Lyman Manual lists in the reference section 32 Remington 170 Grain Jacketed: IMR 4064 28.0-32.0

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Back when these rifles were made, at least the Model 8 the gun companies made what they calculated to be correct for the purpose, not like today or say since WWII where most threads are a standardized pitch and dia. So maybe these screws may very well be slightly larger then #6 or actually a fractio...

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Didn't see that one. It would be nice to have, looked like it was in good condition.

kenhwind

See if the top of the magazine has been squished in any, otherwise I don't know. I don't think I'd mess with the side spring any.

kenhwind

.32 Winchester Special data will suffice.
One of the manuals has data for Reloader 7 iirc.

kenhwind

I'm under the impression they are 6-40
Henwood in his book on The model 8 & 81 state 6-40 also.
You might find replacements on eBay

kenhwind

I just located my copy of the Oct. Blue Press. The article doesn't have much information and seems brief. More like a story for print rather then critique of these rifles. The part the about Bonnie & Clyde ambush and who had what guns has been debated time and again. But he seems to have a few facts...

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I've seen the safety levers listed on eBay periodically. The welded one listed is probably junk, you can not but that kind of weld on a part like that without it warping. I think there might be one listed on GunBroker, I did a "saved search" on Model 8 parts a week or so back, and IIRC one was liste...

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I've been using the Graf's brass with no serious issues, but did finally have some split cases with the .25 Remington brass. This brass is Quality Cartridge Brass and in my opinion doesn't seem to be as good as say genuine factory brass. But at least it is available and with the correct headstamp. I...

kenhwind

If its only the end of the buffer spring that broke off, and it is still flat on each end I'd not worry about it, but would still look for a replacement.

kenhwind

I am inclined to disagree that an anemic load will not cause weak ejection. When cycling the action to unload the rifle you are only actuating the bolt. When fired the recoil has to operate the entire mechanism, after all it is a recoil operated firearm. If there is not enough inertia from or pressu...

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My load listing shows 30.5 IMR 3031 for the Hornady 150 RN Case ejection in these do not seem to be consistent either. John Browning designed the rifle as a .35 caliber, which uses a 200 grain bullet or a bit heavier. Remington decided that they needed to compete with Winchester on a "heads up" basi...

kenhwind

My first thought would be: Factory ammo or reloads? Then I would ask if the barrel assembly has been disassembled and cleaned. Because of the long recoil action of these rifles it takes some energy to operate properly. Dirt old powder and dried up oil can impede the barrel reoiling with enough zest ...

kenhwind

Seems to be an 81 stock.

kenhwind

I ended up buying a model 8 in 25 because I had bought a 32 Remington barrel assembly on eBay. Switching barrel assemblies at the range was somewhat of a hassle imo. An eBay member was looking for a 30 Remington barrel so I sold him my 32 assembly and dies. The .25, .30, & .32 Remington share the sa...

kenhwind

Model 8 .25 barrel assembly listed on eBay, no cream puff.

kenhwind

Value depends on condition and if in original condition. Can you post some pictures in order to get an assessment? To get the most out of selling you can determine a price, list it here, or put it on an auction site: GunBroker, Gun Auctions etc. Do not take it to your local gun store or pawn shop, t...

kenhwind

I probably would not change anything, but if I was seriously inclined to do so, I would disassemble the barrel assemblies and swap the barrels with the respective parts and maintain the correct barrel jacket assembly with each receiver. The only reason I can think of doing this would be if one were ...

kenhwind

I suppose so by changing the bolt head, and barrel assembly. Not sure about the magazine, but I imagine the side springs are different.

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